Weigel on The Truce of 1968

by SDG on April 28, 2006

in The Church

Ppaulvi

Hey, Tim Jones, here.

1968 was the year that I “got saved” in the Baptist church and was baptized. I was seven, and at the time I’m certain that I thought everyone was a Baptist.

Even if I had been a Catholic at the time, though, I would have been too young to take note of the portentious “Truce of 1968″. Like the Kennedy assassination and Vietnam, it was one of those historic events of which I was blissfully unaware, but the effects of which would resonate through the rest of my life.

In THIS ARTICLE over at Catholic Exchange, George Weigel explains The Truce;

“In 1968, Cardinal Patrick O’Boyle of Washington, D.C., disciplined nineteen priests who had publicly dissented from Pope Paul VI’s teaching in the encyclical Humanae Vitae. Three years later, the Vatican’s Congregation for the Clergy decreed that Cardinal O’Boyle should lift canonical penalties against those priests who informed the cardinal privately that they agreed that the Church’s teaching on “the objective evil of contraception” was “an authentic expression of (the) magisterium.”
The Congregation explicitly avoided requiring that the priests, who had dissented publicly, retract their dissent publicly. A new biography of O’Boyle, Steadfast in the Faith (Catholic University of America Press), suggests that the decision not to require a public retraction was made by Paul VI himself.”

To many who were adult Catholics at the time, the “Truce” was a watershed moment, in a decade of watershed moments.

At the time, it was one of a number signs that the Church hierarchy lacked the will or the courage to discipline dissident priests and bishops. It appeared to be almost paralyzed with fear of schism.

They appeared to be intensely concerned with keeping the modernists in the Church, with the result that we now have a Church full of modernists, each worshipping his own conscience.

Weigel’s opinion is always worth reading, and for me, learning about The Truce was a valuable history lesson.

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I'm going to go ahead and close the comments on this thread, because I think pretty well everyone has said their piece at least once, and also because I don't want this to degenerate into another "Trads vs. NeoCons" donnybrook.
Thanks for your input, folks.

So trusting our Blessed Lord is "burying my head in warm fuzzies"?
No, pretending nothing is wrong is burying your head in the warm fuzzies. Refusing to call our leaders to account is burying your head in the warm fuzzies.

John,
The Church has never stopped teaching that it is the one true Church or that non-Catholics can not be saved if they are responsibe for their remaining non-Catholics.
Also, when Bl. John XXIII was asked what he hoped to come of Vatican II, allegedly he said "hopefully at least a little fresh air." You might question what he meant by that, but clearly he did not envision what has happened in the Church after his death.
The rest I think I will let others handle if they want. Your attitude is hardly Catholic though, I must say, saying you don't want to follow the Church and all that. How do you hold both the belief that the Catholic Church is the one true Church to which everyone must belong and the belief that you can reject the Church to follow your own interpretation of Tradition?

As many have questioned "Has the smoke of satan entered the church"? Well if so, it is because John XXIII decided to throw the windows open of the church and allow man and woman born with original sin, to start to question their own faith and traditions and even participate in non-Catholic ceremonies (JPII kissing Korans, sign of shiva, hindu worship at Fatima, Eucharistic hospitality, etc etc) and the young catholic questions "If the church NOW teaches we are not the ONE TRUE CHURCH any more (thank you Father Ratzinger and Lumen Gentium) and other non Catholics can be saved now, even those that reject Jesus which is in clear contradiction to scripture, then why do I need to obey something like contraception???????????
The only answer is Satan and corrupt clergy, or shall I say misguided. One can only seek refuge in the traditional Mass, traditional teachings, Baltimore Catechism and the DR Bible until the church rights herself. She is now even trying to do away with traditional organizations such as SSPX by using her strong $$$$ and buy these men out, who I question if some of them may actually bite at it in the desire to be in "Communion". But one would be better off following sacred tradition than a church that has had a history of bad popes and clergy and even voided 2 councils many years later, as Vatican II will be voided at some future time one must predict

"Dividing life or religion into false sharp catagories could also be a satanic deception."
Well said.

focusing on personal holiness and prayer while ignoring altogether the pervasive corruption within the ecclesiastical structure can also be a satanic deception.
The two are not completely separate. The purpose of the Church is personal holiness, which is to say the reconciliation of the individual with Christ and His giving the individual His own Holiness, so to speak. Nothing in the life of the individual should conflict with this. Nothing should really be separate from this. Part of personal holiness would be caring about the Church, including "ecclesial structure." Depending on one's situation, words or action to help the situation may be in order. This is not opposed to personal holiness/prayer, but rather should flow from it and be a part of it. Dividing life or religion into false sharp catagories could also be a satanic deception.

Joseph-
"...focusing on personal holiness and prayer while ignoring altogether the pervasive corruption within the ecclesiastical structure can also be a satanic deception."
Granted.
Just how pervasive is the corruption is a matter of individual judgement, but I reject outright any notion that corruption is so pervasive that it makes the "current ecclesiastical structure" anything like illegitimate.

Joseph,
You cite sins of certain individual bishops. We all know bishops and even Popes sin. That does not change the fact of the God-given authority of the Magisterium to teach. It teaches with the authority of Christ and is the legitimate interpreter of Scripture and Tradition, not you or me or anyone else who posts here. This belief is practically what defines a Catholic.

If Satan can manage to keep us all focused on Church politics, rather than on personal holiness and prayer, I think he will have pulled off the ultimate deception.
Of course, Tim J., focusing on personal holiness and prayer while ignoring altogether the pervasive corruption within the ecclesiastical structure can also be a satanic deception.
I'm not saying that you, personally, do this. I do know, however, that many Catholics do.
The secret is a balance between both emphases.
So trusting our Blessed Lord is "burying my head in warm fuzzies"? I will keep trusting Him and His Church not because the pope and bishops in communion with him are saints but because they have God-given authority.
Inocencio, how are you willing to hold those God-given authorities accountable when they engage in revisionism that's based on intellectual fashion and ignore the Gospel they were commissioned to preach and defend? Are we not responsible to God, Who implanted His Holy Spirit in us as a guide, to "discern the spirits"? What happens when such "shepherds" as Mahony, Law, et al abuse their "God-given authority" to shuffle clerical predators around their dioceses w/o either the knowledge or the consent of the faithful and their pastors?

Carrie,
So trusting our Blessed Lord is "burying my head in warm fuzzies"? I will keep trusting Him and His Church not because the pope and bishops in communion with him are saints but because they have God-given authority.
Joseph,
Christ Himself Institutionalized Christianity when He founded His Church with His authority, even if you are too "intelligent and independent thinking" to grasp that fact.
Take care and God bless,
Inocencio
J+M+J

Carrie-
I'm afraid perhaps we have been talking past each other a bit.
OF COURSE I believe that there is a diabolical conspiracy against the Church. OF COURSE I accept that he tempts our leaders and they make bad decisions at times.
That doesn't mean that I must accept that there has been any conspiracy at all regarding Fatima.
I see Satan's conspiracy happening every day, and I don't have to leave my house to find it. I see it less in grand, sweeping plots and much more in daily temptations to pride, anger, lust, sloth, gluttony, etc...
I just think there exists an unhealthy tendency to impute guilt and bad faith to decisions of the hierarchy, when this is often not warranted... and I speak as one who would love to see some infamous bishops get the boot!
If Satan can manage to keep us all focused on Church politics, rather than on personal holiness and prayer, I think he will have pulled off the ultimate deception.

Jospeh D'Hippolito I already know your answer about Christ as a "master of irony".
Well, Inocencio, how about this comment that Christ made:
"When the Son of Man returns, will He find faith on the earth?"
Institutionalized Christianity, Catholic and otherwise, is afflicted with corruption.

Church's teaching that the state may put heretics to death for no other reason than heresy.
The Bull Exsurge Domine by Leo X:
Condemned: "33. That heretics be burned is against the will of the Spirit."
"No one of sound mind is ignorant how destructive, pernicious, scandalous, and seductive to pious and simple minds these various errors are, how opposed they are to all charity and reverence for the holy Roman Church who is the mother of all the faithful and teacher of the faith; how destructive they are of the vigor of ecclesiastical discipline, namely obedience. This virtue is the font and origin of all virtues and without it anyone is readily convicted of being unfaithful."

If your point is that there are not enough people who acknowledge the teaching authority of the Church, then it would be odd not to do so yourself and therefore add to the problem.
This would be akin to not believing Jesus' discourse on the bread of life (John 6) because people left him there. The key is that Peter (the 1st Pope) stayed.
The Pope following Christ is "enough people", which is why he is charged with strengthening his brothers (Luke 22:32).

That is, I don't think the hierarchy have deviously kept the Third Secret of Fatima from being revealed, or have been trying to prevent the REAL consecration of Russia.
But you do, I trust, believe that even the hierarchy are subject to the effects of the Fall and therefore subject to temptation. You do believe that Satan is the arch deceiver, and that he tricked our first parents.
Adam and Eve believed that they were doing something good when they listened to the serpent. They were not out to defy God, but look at the result. Is there any guarantee that our hierarchy is immune? As is often said, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Historically we have had bad popes. Certainly we have a long history of bad decisions. If that were not so, what were all of John Paul's apologies about?
I don't believe in any sort of Official Plan to Defy and Frustrate the Revealed Will of Our Lady.
It is not for nothing that she is so frequently depicted with her foot on the snake. If there were an official human plan, it would be easier to expose it. Satan is smarter than that.
If you will recall, one of the revelations at Fatima was that eventually Russia will be consecrated and her Immaculate Heart will prevail. Isn't that an indication that at first her Immaculate Heart will not prevail?
There is a conspiracy, Tim. The arch conspirator just isn't human, and so you will never find a locus of activity or a human leader of the conspiracy here on earth; and that fact works to the deceiver's advantage. What you will find on earth is the deceiver's network. I believe some of them are in the Church.
Inocencio wrote: In your opinion is it possible to be an orthodox Catholic and just believe the words of Christ "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it."?
The Church is built upon the pope. But the guarantee is that the Church will survive, not that every pope will be a saint. Neither is there any guarantee that the Church will survive everywhere at all times. A reading of history will quickly demonstrate that this is not the promise we can count on. Look at Russia.
When Christ returns there will be a remnant of His Church still in existence. Somewhere. Not necessarily in the United States, or in my state of Ohio. Are you content to see the local church you cherish disintegrate into non-existence for the rest of your lifetime? Is it enough to know that there will be a remnant when Christ returns, or do you desire to have access to the sacraments until you are dead and gone? Would you rather look for reasons and answers to keeping your church alive, or just bury your head in the warm fuzzies?

Carrie,
It isn't possible to be an orthodox Catholic without believing in the conspiracy.
In your opinion is it possible to be an orthodox Catholic and just believe the words of Christ "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it."?
Jospeh D'Hippolito I already know your answer about Christ as a "master of irony".
Take care and God bless,
Inocencio
J+M+J

"I don't believe in any sort of Official Plan to Defy and Frustrate the Revealed Will of Our Lady."
That is, I don't think the hierarchy have deviously kept the Third Secret of Fatima from being revealed, or have been trying to prevent the REAL consecration of Russia.
I certainly believe in the smoke of Satan, and where there's smoke there's fire.

Carrie, I was referring to the tendency of some to see an Official Cover Up behind every story.
You know... Roswell, JFK, We Never Went To The Moon... the stinkin' DaVinci Code, for that matter.
I don't believe in any sort of Official Plan to Defy and Frustrate the Revealed Will of Our Lady.
To try to make that mean that I don't believe in the activity of Satan is just a little unhinged.

I'm sorry, I'm just not much for conspiracy theories
So you reject the Church's teachings on Satan then, Tim? Perhaps you'd better understand what we are facing if you read Fr. Gabriele Amorth's book, AN EXORCIST TELLS HIS STORY.
It isn't possible to be an orthodox Catholic without believing in the conspiracy.

Carrie writes:
Today we seem to have two factions in the Church. For example, one of them issued the document on the New Age while the other sponsored a New Age conference on the very grounds of the papal summer residence, as I've been blogging. Talk about a de facto schism!
De facto schism? Or de facto schizophrenia?
Maybe it is high time for the pseudo-Catholics to make a "moral stand" and walk out in protest of the first century thinking and moralizing of the Magisterium and of many on this blog.
I"they went out from us because they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out, that it might be plain that they all are not of us" (1Jn 1:19). Amen.

This is the weirdest series of comments I've seen in a long time.
Jimmy, please weigh in on this!

I'm sorry, I'm just not much for conspiracy theories.

Tim wrote Of course, its important to know why in order to bring things back in line.
I've been saying the same thing myself. Until we expose whatever ugly secrets are still hidden, and until we have some assurance the activities will not be repeated, we are going to keep stirring this foul pot of heresy and apostasy ad infinitum.
I think Rome and the bishops still have their stake in keeping the secrets.

I'm more inclined to vote for the smoke of satan, myself. I think it was deliberate. I also think that those who are guilty thought they were doing what was best for the Church. Didn't a visionary from one of the approved apparitions talk about a "diabolical disorientation"?
Remember Pope Leo XIII's vision?

Joseph and Tim may both be right. Inertia and cowardice often go together and feed each other.

Joseph -
"Weigel asserts that since the Vatican did not confront clerical dissent in the face of Humanae Vitae, it has failed to confront any clerical or episcopal misfeasance. The question is why."
Of course, its important to know why in order to bring things back in line.
The reasons you favor tend to assume bad faith on the part of the hierarchy.
It seems to me more likely that there was (and remains) an overweening concern to prevent schism, a fear of being seen as a bully.
I see it as a lack of spine. Lord knows we see it enough in our own politicians. Using the language of politics, I would encourage the Pope to "play to his base".

Let's get back to the original point: Weigel asserts that since the Vatican did not confront clerical dissent in the face of Humanae Vitae, it has failed to confront any clerical or episcopal misfeasance. The question is why. Outside of the two possible reasons I provided (pervasive internal corruption and the lack of confidence in the rationale behind HV), here's another.
The Church is a bureaucracy (among other things) and bureaucracies, whether religious or secular, are notoriously lethargic (just go to the DMV) and self-absorbed. Anything that doesn't immediately enhance the bureaucracy's own needs won't be acted upon promptly or even considered.
So why wouldn't the Congregation of the Clergy support O'Boyle's discipline? Perhaps it just didn't give a damn. Seriously. Perhaps the congregation's members were more interested in their siestas or in lunch at the nearby trattoria.
I'm not kidding, people.

I agree, Jared, that there are faithful and traditional Catholics who adhere to the teachings of the faith before marriage. What I don't know is how many of these there are. My guess is that they are very very rare--a remnant
I am turning 21 May 20th and am still a virgin. Most of my friends are too, and I live in Syracuse, NY (about 2 doors down from the Heart of Darkness, just before you get to the Inferno). I don't know what actual percentage of young people who wait until marriage is, but there are plenty of them, even if there are more who do not.
This is the approach I take to this whole situation. As Tim pointed out, there are innumerable bright points in the Church. It is like a night in which, as it gets darker and the sky blacker, the stars get brighter and more of them come out. Are we in the Great Apostasy? Maybe. Maybe that started around the 14th or 15th century and we are at the latest phase of it. But what of it? God is still in charge.

If it was erroneous of Carrie to say that "no Catholic" took Humanae Vitae seriously, it is equally erroneous to claim that "many" did. No, many did not. Some did, a few did, but not "many."
May depend on whether you are talking about absolute number or relative to the members of the Church. If one percent of all Catholics did something, it would be absolutely many people, even if it is, relative to the number of Catholics, few.

I know how you feel, carrie, but I am very thankful that I live in a time that seems to be a kind of new Golden Age of Catholic apologetics. There is more solid, othodox material available for individual formation than there has ever been.
Yes, there is a lot of poison out there, too, but we now have at our disposal a healthy arsenal of material to help lay people and catechists get what they may not be able to find in their parish.
We have EWTN, Catholic radio stations, magazines, books, tapes, cds... much more than any generation has had before, and we have a responsibility to use it.
There are lax priests, bishops and catechists by the bushel, but with all the tools we have access to now, a serious, orthodox Catholic has little excuse not to be adequately formed in the faith.
It's not all so bleak as it is made to sound.
Regarding the 3rd Secret of Fatima, sounds like you may have been poorly catechized on that. I would think that the Pope would know best what he was supposed to to with a message that was, after all, left for him.

I agree, Jared, that there are faithful and traditional Catholics who adhere to the teachings of the faith before marriage. What I don't know is how many of these there are. My guess is that they are very very rare--a remnant. And they have had no support from the leadership of the Church, a leadership that has been willing to ignore the fact that the vast majority of single Catholics embrace a polar opposite ethic.
One young person described the attitude of Newman Center priests who practically encouraged premarital sex and undermined Catholic pious practices. This person was considering conversion to the faith until she discovered the double standard and changed her mind.
How can the priest be faulted when the leadership of the Church was not supporting a traditional bishop, as this blog points out? And how can a bishop be expected to be traditional knowing he will get no active support from Rome. Would not, and will not.
Nice orthodox words from the chief shepherd only go so far. When Bruskewitz dies he's going to be a saint. Right now he is the only bishop I can trust to be orthodox. And he's not mine.
Are we in the midst of the Great Apostasy described in Revelation? To find a New Thought conference hosted by Focolare at Castel Gandolfo is just about the last scandal I can endure. If the leadership in Rome can't even get the First Commandment right, how can we expect them to have the Sixth figured out?
Forty years of papal leadership brought us to this point, and I'm still waiting for the current office holder to begin to make a change. It's often said that the Church thinks and acts in centuries; but I'm running out of lifetime.

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Bender wrote: How many faithful and traditional Catholics, enthusiastic defenders of the faith, were virgins when they got married, or are still virgins if single? Next to none, that is the answer.
Uh, Bender? If you're talkin' about "faithful and traditional Catholics, enthusiastic defenders of the faith," my guess would be MOST of us. It's possible that some of us came around, after having made a mistake, but, uh, since that's one of the integral teachings of the Church's stand on marriage, it's a strong bet to say that the truly faithful have held firm in this.
My wife and I were virgins 'til our wedding night as have been many of our friends, our parents, and many others. I know it's rare in today's SOCIETY, but the faithful in the Church (as I said, unless they made a mistake earlier) have always striven to uphold this teaching in their lives. It's difficult but not as rare as you seem to be saying it is.

If Pope Benedict is successful in ending the schism, the Eastern Catholics will be (as they are now) required to accept valid magisterial teaching like Humanae Vitae. Obviously I don't know how it will work out in a practical way but no Catholic may reject Church teaching, whatever their "rite."
Isn't Eastern Orthodox acceptance of contraception a quite recent occurence (even moreso than with the Protestants)?

"Do not refuse one another except perhaps by agreement for a season, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, lest Satan tempt you through lack of self-control." 1 Cor 7:5. Could a woman's fertile period be the season to which St. Paul refers?
Hey, that's an interesting take on that passage. Could Jimmy, if he's reading this, comment on whether that's a valid interpretation?

If Pope Benedict is successful in ending the schism, the Eastern Catholics will be (as they are now) required to accept valid magisterial teaching like Humanae Vitae. Obviously I don't know how it will work out in a practical way but no Catholic may reject Church teaching, whatever their "rite."

The Ukranian Orthodox Church of Canada has this to say:
Though opinions vary among Orthodox on this issue, the view of most Orthodox bodies is that controlling conception through "natural family planning", or contraception, is acceptable for married couples, as long as it is done in a spirit of responsible Christian stewardship of life.
This means, first, that birth control will not be used merely because having and rearing children is seen as a financial or social inconvenience.
Secondly, it means that any form of contraception used will not be physically harmful to either spouse, and will not involve the abortion of a fertilized egg. Finally, the decision to utilize birth control, as well as the decision to have a child, must be a mutual one between both wife and husband.
An Orthodox online friend explained that the Orthodox stand guard at the marriage bedroom door but do not enter the bedroom. That's not a universally accepted opinion, however, or so I've been told.
It will be interesting to see how this is going to be worked out if Benedict is successful in ending the schism.

Michael, God the Creator created nature. The generative sexual act is part of that creation. We know where babies come from. It's not magic nor entirely miraculous. Pregnancy is predictable.

I hear some in the Eastern Orthodox Church teach the same thing, while other Patriarchs allow contraception in certain limited circumstances.
Also I know a Church of Christ youth minister who believes contraception is immoral and has a kid every year or two. So we're not quite alone, but darn close to it.

JR,
If you didn't say it, don't answer it.
I was responding to Carrie.

From Catholic Answers:
Few realize that up until 1930, all Protestant denominations agreed with the Catholic Church’s teaching condemning contraception as sinful. At its 1930 Lambeth Conference, the Anglican church, swayed by growing social pressure, announced that contraception would be allowed in some circumstances. Soon the Anglican church completely caved in, allowing contraception across the board. Since then, all other Protestant denominations have followed suit. Today, the Catholic Church alone proclaims the historic Christian position on contraception.

Michael Hugo,
If you want a response it would be a good idea to cite exactly where you read "nature provides" and give the context. I think few people want to read through everything looking for that comment.

Yo,
What is this "nature provides" nonesense?
Is this a Catholic blog, or not?

Apples: The Church's teaching on marraige.
Oranges: "St. Joseph had grounds for annulment."

Just because some people see something a certain way doesn't make it so.
I'm not saying it does. But remember, what this thread is about--the reason we are in the midst of a scandal. That reason does not rest on truth. It rests on perception by those who made choices back in 1968 and since. The way that people saw the Pope's actions is pertinent to the way they themselves acted in 1968. A Pope who ignored heaven's orders also impacted the way the laity would respond to his own.
"Do not refuse one another except perhaps by agreement for a season, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, lest Satan tempt you through lack of self-control." 1 Cor 7:5.
When citing this passage it is necessary to keep in mind the fact that the Holy Family is held up to us as the ultimate model of married life, but they defied this perscription in Corinthians. There was only one child, and the wife remained a virgin until she died. They did not come together, let alone "come together again." Teaching on the congujal act is a bit schizophrenic at best. St. Joseph had grounds for annulment. The marriage was never consummated.

"How many faithful and traditional Catholics, enthusiastic defenders of the faith, were virgins when they got married or are still virgins if single? Next to none, that is the answer." A psychologist might call this "Projection". Well, I'm 52, single, and, by the Grace of God, still a virgin. There's nothing special about me. If I can do it, anybody can.
Bender, I wholeheartedly agree with your paragraph about the sexual revolution and the failure of many of the Church's leaders to teach and promote HV.

"Bill, the teaching back then was that a woman could not refuse her husband." It still is. It is also a teaching of the Church that a husband may not refuse his wife. ""The husband should give to his wife the conjugal relations, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not rule over her own body, but the husband does; likewise the husband does not rule over his own body, the wife does." 1 Cor. 7:3-4.
"...the pope was seen as refusing (Mary's) request, atleast where I came from." Just because some people see something a certain way doesn't make it so.
"NFP is considered to be in conformity with God's way of doing things. "Do not refuse one another except perhaps by agreement for a season, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, lest Satan tempt you through lack of self-control." 1 Cor 7:5. Could a woman's fertile period be the season to which St. Paul refers?

Joseph, there is one other possible explanation. The destruction we are enduring may have been orchestrated. Paul VI himself said the smoke of satan had entered. Whatever the consecration of Russia was intended to counter was not countered in the 60s as heaven planned.
Today we seem to have two factions in the Church. For example, one of them issued the document on the New Age while the other sponsored a New Age conference on the very grounds of the papal summer residence, as I've been blogging. Talk about a de facto schism!

"...perhaps Vaticanisti themselves knew that the rationale behind it was bogus."
Except time has proven that it wasn't.
Then, Tim, why didn't the Vatican demand that those priests who protested publicly retract their dissent publicly? The only other explanation is the one to which I dedicated most of my first post.

What more could the modernists wanted after Vatican II? It is clear in scripture what the intent of marriage is-to produce offspring and populate heaven. But I have to chuckle and have no idea what Paul VI really stood for and where he belongs in church history as he pushed forth the destruction and loss of millions of clergy who left the Catholic priesthood in the 70's and 80's by the introduction of the new Protestant Liturgy that has only gotten worse today as well as the New Sacraments and translation of the bible and then of course the new Code of Canon law under JPII that needed to coincide with Modernism and Vatican II and opened the door for 60,000 annulments a year in the US alone, what a horrible state the church is in with respect the Catholic marriage, and of course the handing over of our Lord to non-catholics (Eucharistic Hospitality anyone??)just another re-enactment of not the last supper-But Our lord being handed over by the Pharisies for his crucifixion
Pray for a return to true Traditionalism and faith, morals, and prayer. Lex Orandi Lex Credendi
God bless

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