Condoms & HIV/AIDS

by Jimmy Akin on May 2, 2006

in Moral Theology

I’ve gotten a bunch of e-mails about the stories circulating in the Catholic press that the Holy See may be issuing a document dealing with the topic of condoms and the transmission of HIV/AIDS.

From what I can tell, the known facts seem to be these:

1) Pope Benedict asked one of the Vatican dicasteries (the Pontifical Council for Health Pastoral Care) to prepare such a document (after some cardinals started making remarks in the press that sounded favorable toward using condoms to prevent the spread of AIDS, thus creating a public issue that needs clarification).

2) The document is presently in the consultation stage (word is that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is now looking at it).

3) When the consultation is finished, the document will be forwarded to B16 for him to decide what (if anything) to do with it. So NONE of this is a done deal at this point.

GET THE STORY.

Now, let’s go deeper: John Allen says (EXCERPTS),

Sources told NCR this week that a draft study currently being prepared by the Pontifical Council for Health Pastoral Care would provisionally accept the use of condoms in the narrow context of a married couple, where one partner is infected with HIV/AIDS and the other is not, as a means to prevent transmission of the disease.

Cardinal Javier Lozano Barragàn, President of the Pontifical Council for Health Pastoral Care, confirmed in an April 23 interview with the Roman newspaper La Repubblica that his office was asked by Pope Benedict XVI to look into the subject.

Speaking on background, an official in Lozano Barragàn’s office later told NCR that the draft takes a favorable position on the use of condoms to halt the spread of the disease "inside marriage and the family, not outside of it."

GET THAT STORY. (CLINICAL LANGUAGE WARNING)

Allen does a pretty good job explaining the moral dimensions of what the document might say, but let’s get into the moral issue involved and try to envision what the document might say if it comes out along the lines that Allen indicates are currently being discussed.

This matter is sensitive enough, though, that I’ll put the substantive discussion of it below the fold for the sake of decorum.

(CLINICAL LANGUAGE WARNING BELOW.)

Let’s start with the basics: Sex has both a unitive and a procreative aspect and the effects of condom use on both of these need to be examined.

First, let’s consider the effects of condom use on the procreative aspect of sex: Would it be immoral to use a condom on the grounds that it blocks the procreative dimension of sex?

The natural impulse of many of us (myself included) would be to say yes. Procreation cannot be interfered with, and so it would be immoral to use a condom to prevent the transmission of HIV due to the fact that it renders the act infertile.

But wait a moment. The law of double effect may apply here.

Suppose a married couple that otherwise accepts and intends to implement the Church’s teaching on human sexuality has one partner who is infected with HIV and they want to know whether they can use a condom to engage in sexual intercourse with a reduced risk of HIV transmission.

If they asked me about the advisability of this, the very first thing I would tell them is that condoms aren’t foolproof and don’t always stop the virus. The risk of transmission is too great, in my opinion, and they should refrain from having sex at all on grounds of prudence. If you really love your spouse, you won’t want them to take the risk of contracting HIV from you.

But suppose that they are willing to set this issue aside and want to know about the intrinsic moral structure of the act–not its prudential evaluation: Could they use the condom if conditions of prudence are set aside?

What they would be doing, in this case, is to use a piece of plastic to stop the virus from passing from one partner to the other.

Is using a piece of plastic to stop a virus from jumping from one person to another an okay thing in principle?

Sure it is. That’s why doctors and nurses and dentists and dental technicians wear gloves when they’re doing examinations that could bring them into contact with bodily fluids. Stopping the transmission of HIV by using pieces of plastic is well established.

But how does that square with the procreative aspect of sex? Would a couple using a condom to stop HIV be using the fact that the condom also stops sperm either as a means or as an end?

If the couple is a good Catholic couple that wants to keep the sex act open to life then it would seem that the blockage of sperm along with the virus may be neither a means nor an end.

It’s not an end (a goal) because if one partner didn’t have HIV then they wouldn’t be using the condom. The sperm isn’t what they want to stop. They’re not trying to stop the sperm–that’s not their goal–they’re trying to stop the virus. Stopping the virus is the end they are pursuing by using the piece of plastic.

It also may not be a means because the couple may not be stopping the sperm in order to stop the virus.

The question here hinges on whether certain spermatazoa are themselves infected with HIV and can infect the partner or whether the HIV is free-floating in the semen.

Assume, for the moment, that it’s the latter. In this case the stopping of the sperm would not be a means to the end of stopping the virus. It would simply be a side effect, and if it’s only a side effect then it’s potentially morally justifiable on the principle of double-effect.

But what if the virus is currently embedded in the spermatazoa themselves? In that case stopping the spermatozoa might be considered a means to stopping the virus, but it might (notice I said might) be justifiable on self-defense grounds.

Consider an example: Suppose that a person who otherwise has a right to come into my home (let’s say it’s my college  roommate, who co-pays the rent) has become a suicide bomber and has swallowed a bomb that will go off once he enters our dorm room. Stopping him from coming in may be the only way to stop the bomb from coming in and detonating. In the same way, stopping a particular spermatozoon that has become infected with HIV might be justifiable on self-defense grounds.

(It certainly would be if someone were trying to introduce an HIV-infected spermatozoon into your body through something other than sex, you could clearly stop such a spermatozoon on self-defense grounds.)

So it seems to me that there may be a double-effect argument (possibly in combination with a self-defense argument) that could apply here.

All of this deals only with the procreative aspect of the sexual act, though. None of it deals with the unitive aspect, and we have to consider that because the unitive aspect of the sexual act is also an essential element of it.

To my mind, the unitive aspect of sex is not just the sense of emotional closeness or shared sexual sensations that the spouses get from the act. They could get such things through mutual masturbation. In order for the unitive aspect of the act to exist, the relevant bits of their anatomy must be united in a specific way.

That doesn’t happen if you put a piece of plastic between them.

What happens in that case is the two people are really uniting themselves to a piece of plastic and not to each other. They are then manipulating the piece of plastic in a way that brings about sexual pleasure and release, which thus appears to turn the conjugal act into an act of mutual masturbation with a piece of plastic in the middle and not a unitive sexual act of husband and wife.

So it seems to me that, regardless of whether double-effect (and self-defense) could make the loss of the procreative aspect of the act tolerable, the destruction of the unitive aspect is something that cannot be gotten around.

The act of using a condom to prevent the transmission of AIDS in a sexual act will still be immoral.

But is it, as some cardinals have suggested, a "lesser evil"?

The question at this point would be "Is it a lesser evil to mutually masturbate with your spouse than it is to have sex with your spouse in a way that is likely to kill?"

It’s always hard to compare the gravity of one mortal sin versus another, but it seems to me that the answer to that question is likely to be "Yes, it is less evil to mutually masturbate with your spouse than to have sex in a way that will likely kill your spouse."

You’d still be committing a mortal sin either way, but it seems to me that the Holy See could judge that it is a lesser mortal sin to do mutual masturbation via a condom than to kill your spouse via HIV infection.

BE SURE TO SEE JOHN ALLEN’S DISCUSSION OF HOW THE "LESSER EVIL" PRINCIPLE IS USED IN PASTORAL SETTINGS–E.G., THE MOBSTER IN CONFESSION EXAMPLE.

I don’t know for sure whether the Vatican document that is under consideration is focused narrowly on the situation of husbands and wives using condoms to prevent HIV transmission or whether it is broader than that, but the "lesser evil" principle would seem to have a broader application than just to husbands and wives.

Consider this:

Homosexuals are already performing sexual acts that are non-procreative (because you need both sexes to have a kid) and non-unitive (because members of the same sex don’t have the relevant bits of anatomy to unite), so a homosexual who committed a condomistic sex act would need to go to confession and say, "I had homosexual sex," but it doesn’t seem that he would be obliged to add " . . . and I also rendered it non-procreative and non-unitive by using a condom."

If that’s the case then the lesser evil principle might apply here, too, and the question would be: Which is worse? Committing homosexual sex in a way that has a higher or a lower chance of killing the other person?

The answer would seem to be the latter. They’re both mortal sins, but the former seems to be a worse mortal sin than the latter. (In fact, if someone is HIV-infected and has homosexual sex then it seems to me that he would be obliged to say "I had homosexual sex AND I did so knowing that I have HIV and was putting the other person’s life at risk.")

If the Holy See comes to conclusions on these matters, it would then have the question of whether to announce them publicly.

That’s a prudential question that has to take into account the effect of media distortion on such matters and whether speaking the truth about the subject on such a high-profile level would do more harm than good.

In principle, I don’t have a problem with the Church announcing the truth about any moral question–answering moral questions is essential to the work of the Church, and it cannot duck them just because they’re delicate or controversial. But there is still a real question about the way in which the Church should announce the truth: Should it come through an official announcement of a Vatican dicastery, with the pope’s blessing and thus authority behind it, or should it come more informally and non-magisterially, through a developing consensus of moral theologians?

That’s a question for B16 to answer.

It’s why they pay him the big bucks.

Keep him in your prayers on this one, won’t you?

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AIDS Mushrooms through
Gender-based Violence and Discrimination
Anirudha Alam
The conventional gender roles that underpin sexual inequality and violence are entrenched by dyed-in-the-wool social norms. So women are always in the vicious circle of vulnerability to HIV/AIDS. It is an essential fact that gender-based violence is a key factor in increasing women’s risk of contracting the virus skyward.
Social discrimination engenders several factors associated with women’s subordinate position that it results in multidimensional likelihood of HIV infection. What’s more! Capitalizing on this discrimination, gender-based violence is the leading route of all vulnerabilities. Mostly these are the consequences of harmful traditional practices which put women at higher risk and socio-economic prejudices which undermine women’s life skills of protecting themselves.
A study executed by the Asia Pacific Network of People Living with HIV (APN+) identified some HIV-related issues in which women suffered extensively from higher levels of discrimination than man. The issues are related to being ridiculed and insulted, physically assaulted, removed from or asked to leave a public establishment, forced to change place of residence, excluded from social function, advised not to have a child after being diagnosed as HIV-positive and suffering exclusion by family members as well as losing financial support from family members. Another in-depth study in three African countries found that both of men and women are to be stigmatized become of breaking sexual norms. But the society led by exclusive male hegemony put the blame on women more easily.
The factors entwined with poverty, illiteracy, female genital mutilation, polygamy, wife inheritance, rape by intimate partners, early marriage, having multiple sex partners, minimal access to productive resources, forced sterilization, prostitution, sexual harassment and assault at work-places as well as different conflict situations make women face an epidemic of violence every day. It is realized that women are two to four times more vulnerable to HIV/AIDS during unprotect sexual intercourse than men. In various parts of the world, rape and sexual violence are supposed to be weapon of war. In view of that, gender-based violence is an all-too-common feature of coeval conflicts. It is used to attribute a moral code based on rigorously and thoroughly differentiated roles for male and female. For instance, women victimized by gender-based violence are among the casualties of the continuing internal conflict in Colombia on a great scale.
Realization of human rights and fundamental freedoms for all is an essential element in a global response to the HIV/AIDS epidemic through preventing stigma and respective discrimination against people infected and affected by HIV/AIDS. Armed conflicts and natural disasters always add extra dimension to discrimination oriented violence. So role of cultural, family, ethical and religious factors should be gender sensitized internalizing right-based approach in combating endemic and ensuring treatment, care and support.
As per the findings of the research entitled ‘Role of Safe Sexual Practices Reduce Gender-based Violence’ conducted by Rainbow Nari O Shishu Kallyan Foundation in 2006, ABC - Abstain (from sexual intercourse), Be faithful (to one sexual partner) and use Condom) - approach has a great impact to protect the vulnerable women stigmatized often for their risky behavior. It has the potential comprehensively to contribute to protection from exposure to HIV/AIDS. This approach is the stepping stone to reducing gender based violence as a whole.
Bearing in mind empowering women is essential for reducing vulnerability, their social security and economic opportunities have to be ensured. Discrimination, unequal property and inheritance laws and petty access to knowledge confine women’s income-earning possibilities. Thus inequality between male and female thrives on enhancing the means of violence. This is why in the aspect of preventing HIV/AIDS, there is no alternative of making women self-reliance that they would be able to protect them from onslaught of discriminations and gender-based violence.
Anirudha Alam
Deputy Director
(Information & Development Communication)
BEES (Bangladesh Extension Education Services)
183, Lane 2, Eastern Road, New DOHS
Mohakhali, Dhaka 1206
Bangladesh.
Phone: 8801718342876, 88029889732, 88029889733 (office)
88028050514 (res.)
E-mail: anirudha.alam@gmail.com
info@bees-bd.org, bees@worldnetbd.net
Website: http://anirudha-alam.blogspot.com
Ref: UNAIDS, World Bank, UNFPA, UNESCO

AIDS Mushrooms through
Gender-based Violence and Discrimination
Anirudha Alam
The conventional gender roles that underpin sexual inequality and violence are entrenched by dyed-in-the-wool social norms. So women are always in the vicious circle of vulnerability to HIV/AIDS. It is an essential fact that gender-based violence is a key factor in increasing women’s risk of contracting the virus skyward.
Social discrimination engenders several factors associated with women’s subordinate position that it results in multidimensional likelihood of HIV infection. What’s more! Capitalizing on this discrimination, gender-based violence is the leading route of all vulnerabilities. Mostly these are the consequences of harmful traditional practices which put women at higher risk and socio-economic prejudices which undermine women’s life skills of protecting themselves.
A study executed by the Asia Pacific Network of People Living with HIV (APN+) identified some HIV-related issues in which women suffered extensively from higher levels of discrimination than man. The issues are related to being ridiculed and insulted, physically assaulted, removed from or asked to leave a public establishment, forced to change place of residence, excluded from social function, advised not to have a child after being diagnosed as HIV-positive and suffering exclusion by family members as well as losing financial support from family members. Another in-depth study in three African countries found that both of men and women are to be stigmatized become of breaking sexual norms. But the society led by exclusive male hegemony put the blame on women more easily.
The factors entwined with poverty, illiteracy, female genital mutilation, polygamy, wife inheritance, rape by intimate partners, early marriage, having multiple sex partners, minimal access to productive resources, forced sterilization, prostitution, sexual harassment and assault at work-places as well as different conflict situations make women face an epidemic of violence every day. It is realized that women are two to four times more vulnerable to HIV/AIDS during unprotect sexual intercourse than men. In various parts of the world, rape and sexual violence are supposed to be weapon of war. In view of that, gender-based violence is an all-too-common feature of coeval conflicts. It is used to attribute a moral code based on rigorously and thoroughly differentiated roles for male and female. For instance, women victimized by gender-based violence are among the casualties of the continuing internal conflict in Colombia on a great scale.
Realization of human rights and fundamental freedoms for all is an essential element in a global response to the HIV/AIDS epidemic through preventing stigma and respective discrimination against people infected and affected by HIV/AIDS. Armed conflicts and natural disasters always add extra dimension to discrimination oriented violence. So role of cultural, family, ethical and religious factors should be gender sensitized internalizing right-based approach in combating endemic and ensuring treatment, care and support.
As per the findings of the research entitled ‘Role of Safe Sexual Practices Reduce Gender-based Violence’ conducted by Rainbow Nari O Shishu Kallyan Foundation in 2006, ABC - Abstain (from sexual intercourse), Be faithful (to one sexual partner) and use Condom) - approach has a great impact to protect the vulnerable women stigmatized often for their risky behavior. It has the potential comprehensively to contribute to protection from exposure to HIV/AIDS. This approach is the stepping stone to reducing gender based violence as a whole.
Bearing in mind empowering women is essential for reducing vulnerability, their social security and economic opportunities have to be ensured. Discrimination, unequal property and inheritance laws and petty access to knowledge confine women’s income-earning possibilities. Thus inequality between male and female thrives on enhancing the means of violence. This is why in the aspect of preventing HIV/AIDS, there is no alternative of making women self-reliance that they would be able to protect them from onslaught of discriminations and gender-based violence.
Anirudha Alam
Deputy Director
(Information & Development Communication)
BEES (Bangladesh Extension Education Services)
183, Lane 2, Eastern Road, New DOHS
Mohakhali, Dhaka 1206
Bangladesh.
Phone: 8801718342876, 88029889732, 88029889733 (office)
88028050514 (res.)
E-mail: anirudha.alam@gmail.com
info@bees-bd.org, bees@worldnetbd.net
Website: http://anirudha-alam.blogspot.com
Ref: UNAIDS, World Bank, UNFPA, UNESCO

AIDS Prevention Spotlighted
by Gender Mainstreaming
Anirudha Alam
Spread of HIV/AIDS results in risk of losing forms of social and economic protection. There is no doubt that onslaught of HIV/AIDS is closely associated with gender inequality and poor respect for the rights of women. So to mitigate the multiple impacts of epidemic, gender mainstreaming should be significantly integrated into HIV/AIDS prevention programs. Eventually, HIV prevention and impact mitigation policy will be able to make the realization of gender equality one of the most important strategies.
Gender mainstreaming for HIV/AIDS is to ensure gender equality in all policies, programs and activities that it would be possible to keep the epidemic in bay. It is the most efficient and equitable means for using existing resources with a view to combating HIV/AIDS internalizing need based approach. At a rough estimate since the beginning of the epidemic, over 10 million women have died from HIV/AIDS-resulted illness. 48 per cent of adults newly affected by HIV/AIDS in 2001 were certainly women. The fact that lack of gender mainstreaming along with domination of social stigma and discrimination creates a tremendous barrier to women making them unable to adopt HIV risk-reducing behavior.
Social stigma and gender discrimination engulf series of possibilities to reduce vulnerability to HIV/AIDS successively. The enhanced poverty and developmental decline nourished by gender inequality may make women and girls engaged in risky sexual behavior in lieu of getting money, food and other facilities. Having lack of enough access to quality treatment and care, then they fall into enormous vulnerability to sexually transmitted diseases (STIs) one after another.
As per the finding of Rainbow Nari O Shishu Kallyan Foundation, 95 per cent adolescent girls of Bangladesh are drastically vulnerable to HIV/AIDS because of their paltry access to necessary information for protecting their reproductive health. Due to their poverty at the levels of awareness, skill, knowledge, attitude and practice all along, they are being more vulnerable consecutively. When they are enough adult they are not able to ensure their role as potential manpower in planning, implementing, monitoring and evaluating pro-gender programs and projects.
Considering all the situations related to sexual behavior, social attitudes and praxis, financial empowerment and so on, there are in-depth differences between men’s and women’s access to information, prevention, treatment and care-giving supports. It is much more common in all cultures that commitments for guiding sexual behavior and sexual health are being threatened by gender discrimination. If women and girls have not qualitative reproductive health literacy HIV/AIDS will be turned into as the greatest social problem in developing countries. According to the findings of UNAIDS, as of December 2000, ninety five per cent of all AIDS cases have occurred in developing countries.
Through promoting, facilitating and supporting the implementation of gender mainstreaming, AIDS prevention should be brought about under the spotlight of women empowerment. Gender mainstreaming and women empowerment are obviously complementary strategies. So the strategy of gender mainstreaming within HIV/AIDS prevention should be outlined that women empowerment is ensured.
Ref: UNAIDS, World Bank, Commonwealth Secretariat, UNESCO
Anirudha Alam
Deputy Director
(Information & Development Communication)
BEES (Bangladesh Extension Education Services)
183, Lane 2, Eastern Road, New DOHS
Mohakhali, Dhaka 1206
Bangladesh.
Phone: 8801718342876, 88029889732, 88029889733 (office)
88028050514 (res.)
E-mail: anirudha.alam@gmail.com
info@bees-bd.org, bees@worldnetbd.net

Ok to all you that say, the couple should carry their cross because there are many other couples who have to carry their cross. Yes there are couples who have to carry their cross but we are talking sexual unity here between a married couple which all catholic and christian married couples get to experience, this is a natural gift from God between a married couple. Some of you who are married or have been married for a while should stop and think before you jump the gun about this whole issue, first of all "Let he without sin cast the first stone" none of us are without sin so some of you are insinuating about some of out men in the Holy Sea aiming towards hell, second of all I have heard some say well then should just abstain and that was also my first thought however put yourself in their shoes and see how difficult it would be for the man or woman you love so much and live with everyday for the rest of their lives knowing that can't be sexually intimate I know for a fact some of you would be complaining about the same thing if the tables were turned. Remember we are not just talking about pro-creating we are also talking about comsimation and unity and they really do have just as much as any other christian couple. Now as far as the condom use on if I agree with it or not, the truth is I thought no matter what we were not suppose to use any type of artificial contraception but in this case I honestly don't know and I hope the Holy Spirit can give me the answer. God Bless everyone!

No New Statement on Condoms Likely, Vatican Expert Says
Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:10:47 AM GMT

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"...(same as intended effect in double-effect language)..."
is what I meant to say. "Intent" and "effect" are downsteam things that happen (or are desired to happen) as a consequence of choosing a certain act. The object is what you are actually choosing to do, not the downstream consequences of what you are actually choosing to do.
Gotta get some sleep, yeesh.

"Contraceptive effect" is a misleading term when talking about contraception as a moral act, by the way. An act of contraception - an intrinsically evil act according to the Church - is evil by the nature of its object, not because of its intent (same as effect in double-effect language) or circumstances. The effects or conseqeunces of a contraceptive act are irrelevant to evaluating the morality of the act: it is evil no matter what conseqeunces or circumstances surround doing it or failing to do it. That is what intrinsically evil means.

Sorry, I made a mistake here:
Then kindly explaining why killing an innocent person is not wrong by nature of its object.
Sorry< misread this. It is always wrong to kill an innocent person as the object of your act, period and full stop. My discussion is about killing not-innocent people, e.g. enemy soldiers, criminals, etc.

Then kindly explaining why killing an innocent person is not wrong by nature of its object.
According to Acquinas it is wrong, for an individual, though not for the magistrate or in a just war. You have to understand the distinction between commutative and distributive justice in order to make sense of it (that is, justice as it apples to the acts of individuals versus justice as it applies to acts on behalf of a community by legitimate representatives of the community). You may defend yourself as an individual from an attacker, including causing harm to the attacker and even causing his death, but you cannot licitly choose to kill your attacker, according to Acquinas. If your attacker dies as a result of legitimate self-defense it must be an accidental (strictly speaking unintended) death. Killing the attacker cannot be the object (in the Catholic moral theology sense) of your act, or your act is not self-defense. In Just War the community can defend itself from an attacking community by killing soldiers (analogous to you harming your attacker in order to stop the attack), but it cannot will the utter destruction of the attacking community.
You are saying that "contraceptive effect" trumps that ...
No I am not. I am saying that an act of contraception is evil by nature of its object; that is, according to what the actor chooses to do (and not what she wishes she could do); and furthermore that contraception specifically is to choose to engage in an unnatural (in the Thomistic sense) sex act which has been modified in such a way that it is rendered infertile (which is entirely different from an unmodified act which happens to be infertile).
I recommend reading Proportionalism and the Natural Law Tradition by Kaczor to get a decent handle on the basics of Catholic moral theology. Then read (for example) the encyclical Veritas Splendour, which will make much more sense once you've gotten the basic vocabulary down by reading Kaczor. Then read Casti Connubi and all the other formal Church documents which talk about the moral theology of sex. It will make a great deal more sense as a coherent whole at that point.

In Catholic moral theology proportionality doesn't come into play until an act is determined not to be evil by nature of its object or, separately, its intended effects.
Then kindly explaining why killing an innocent person is not wrong by nature of its object. That happens in both the just war and the painkiller scenarios.
You are saying that "contraceptive effect" trumps that an action has more than one immediate effect -- the exact situation where double effect applies.

BC: I know what you meant, but the position fostered by the archbishop is neither prudent nor practical. We're dealing with people's eternal destinies, as well as their physical ones. May God have mercy on him.

For those interested in this topic, the Archbishop of Glasgow has now made his feelings know (I provide the web address below). The modernist nature of today's bishops, I think is very disconcerting and many seem to operate merely from a prudential and practical basis instead of what the Church has consistently taught.
http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=664982006

Back from the morning run. I think, whosebob, that our most obvious point of disconnect is in this:
...contraception is certainly a known secondary effect...
Contraception is not and cannot be a "secondary effect". Thinking about contraception as the effect of certain acts is to misunderstand what contraception is as a moral act. Contraception is what the Church calls an intrinsic evil, which means that it is evil by nature of its object, and specifically not because of its effects. This is not easy to wrap your mind around, because "having a child/not having a child" in itself is an effect of the marital act: it is not inherent in the act itself, it is a contingent outcome of the act which may or may not take place. Yet contraception is inherent in the act itself, according to the Church, because it is an intrinsic evil. That is what "intrinsic evil" means.
So the act itself - consensual sex performed in a way that renders it infecund (whether one wishes to render it infecund or not) - is evil. Effects of the act are simply not relevant, and the principle of double-effect doesn't apply (rationally cannot apply), because double-effect can only apply if the evil we are analyzing is an effect of the act rather than inherent in its object.
So double-effect is irrelevant, and you need to make up your mind unequivocally whether the sex act in your scenario is consensual or not. If it isn't consensual it can't be contraception (on her part), because contraception is by definition a voluntary sex act performed in an unnaturally infecund way. If it is consensual (even under a lot of pressure) then the effects of the act, her wishful thinking about the act, etc are irrelevant. The act is evil by nature of its object, full stop.

No, she has chosen to defend herself, ...
And this is (at least one place) where you are equivocating. I gave two conditions under which she would be contracepting and committing an evil act:
1) She chooses to have sex; and
2) She chooses to use a condom during that sex.
Now you say - somewhat equivocally - that she is not choosing to have sex. But that isn't an objection to my post, it is an equivocation in your scenario.
Sorry for the multiple posts, early morning rush and all that.

And furthermore, if it is rape then double-effect simply isn't relevant: it isn't as though contraception is a bad effect of her act. The sex isn't her act at all if she is being raped, and an act of contraception is first and foremost a voluntary sexual act.

She really does not have that choice in my proposed scenario.
I've stated several times above that if she is literally a rape victim it is not possible for her to contracept. But you seem to be equivocating about her consent. It isn't rape if she has any choice at all.

whosebob had written:
Can (1) be met in my scenario? I think so,...
and Zippy replied:
I think not; manifestly not. It isn't that he insists on using a condom and she cooperates reluctantly, in your scenario. It is that she insists on the use of the condom: she insists on the act which is evil in itself.
Well, I guess this is where we are at loggerheads. My hypotheses: it is morally acceptable for the wife to request or insist that her HIV-infected husband use a condom, perhaps even procuring that condom for him, as longs there is *no* contraceptive intent on her part and if it is not otherwise possible to avoid or prevent having sexual intercourse with her husband, which will otherwise be without a condom. Why would such actions be justified? Because her actions, with those stipulations met fully, can be understood entirely as a matter of self-defense.
Zippy wrote:
If she has the option to choose whether or not there is a condom
Her choice is predicated on the inevitability that she will be subjected to sexual relations with her husband, either with or without the condom, and she means to try and defend herself from a fatal STD. That's not much of a choice.
Zippy wrote:
and she has the option to choose whether or not there is sex
She really does not have that choice in my proposed scenario. Her husband *will* use violence to force sexual relations with her if she does not consent, that is give a limited consent, to such relations. By limited consent I mean that she does not physically resist, not that she gives her full mental, emotional, and bodily compliance to her husband's desires. And remember that my scenario precludes her having recourse to law enforcement personnel or community outrage or to violence against her husband.
Zippy wrote:
and she chooses sex with a condom, she has chosen an intinsically evil act. Open and shut, Vademicum or no Vademicum.
No, she has chosen to defend herself, even granted that it's not a perfect defense, when she does not have a means to avoid or prevent the otherwise almost certainly deadly sexual intercourse. Therefore her act of self-defense, not contraception, can be defended according to the principle of the double effect.

Zippy: Sorry 'bout that. Your post appeared while I was catching up and then writing my response.
whosebob: Apology accepted.
I had understood you to mean that the community might seek the death of the husband. If the hypothetical woman in question were my sister, or even (were I a priest) one of my parishioners ... and if the society is as lawless as we're led to believe ....

Katie wrote:
whosebob: You seem to have a very a low opinion of Africans.
Not at all. Though the scenario I'm describing apparently creeps up quite often in, for example, African countries where many men are employed as migrant mine workers, and where the cultures afford women few if any rights.
whosebob had written:
I'm not trying to find or create a loophole for morally legitimate condomized sex.
and Katie replied:
And yet, it seems to me that you are. Isn't that exactly what you're doing? Your stand seems to be legitimizing rape. It seems to me that you're saying to the woman, "You better give it to him, otherwise he'll beat you up." And that's okay, 'cause, you MIGHT be able to get him to where a condom and maybe have a slightly smaller risk of dying from the horrible, awful disease that he contracted most likely from whoring around.
No, I am saying that in certain cases a woman may intend to defend herself, her very life, by using a device that happens to be ordinarily and principally used for contraceptive purposes. There is no intent on her part to contracept, nor is she (or should she be) under the illusion that such condomized sexual relations are in any way compatible with God's design for human sexuality and the moral law that governs it. AND the moral legitimacy of her acts depends ENTIRELY on her not having any other choice -- her husband will beat her up and force her to have sex without a condom if she cannot convince him to wear one, in which case a "bargaining chip" on her part is to not put up a physical struggle. It is NOT good or okay that she faces this REALLY AWFUL situation, what I'm suggesting is that it would be better for her to give limited consent to sex with her husband in such a way that her risk of HIV-contraction is reduced, i.e. he wears a condom at her prompting, rather than get physcially beaten and have a much higher chance of contracting the virus.
This attitude and behavior of the husband is DEPLORABLE, and the local laws *should* make it criminal. But what if they don't? Or what if such laws are known never to be enforced even if they are "on the books?"
Katie wrote:
It's been well documented that the rise in condom and other contraceptive use coincides with the rise in STDs. Don't you think this'll only encourage the man to do what he wants. He's already proved he doesn't care enough about himself (otherwise he wouldn't have contracted the disease); why should he care about his wife? Condoms give him an excuse.
Yes, you're right that the figures support that. And I believe that abstinence and fidelity based STD-prevention programs are the only moral and practical option.
I believe it is critical that the Catholic clergy, agency personnel, missionaries, and the wife herself as much as possible, witness to the HIV-infected husband that what he's doing or has done in this regard is WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!
At the same time, I'm saying that the wife may have to take the actions described to save her life.
Honestly, this dialogue is kind of maddening, because I always, always want to be on the side of Catholic orthodoxy, and I just know ya'll are looking squint-eyed at my posts thinking I must be some heterodox looney. :O

It certainly wasn't directed at you Zippy.
Other writers had indirectly denied that staying with a diseased spouse and seeking his conversion was a holy enterprise.

Jared Weber wrote:
You write about "swift, though unjust, capital punishment by her community...." This is precisely what I'm referring to, sans the "unjust" part. Capital punishment is not intrinsically evil (unlike contraception) and in this hypothetical case you present, it is more than justified. Five minutes.
Also, can I ask you to please restrain your use of the word "duh" when directed at me? It's rude.
Jared, I apologize for using the word "duh." I did so out of frustration, to do so was rude, and I won't do it again. I am sorry.
As to the "unjust capital punishment," I was referring to 3rd world countries, such as some in Africa, where women have few or no rights, and where an attack -- yes, even a justified one by our standards -- of a wife upon her husband would result in the community immediately executing or at least castigating that woman. And it goes without saying that in those same communities, it is unreasonable to expect that just punishment will be carried out on an HIV-infected husband who forces his wife to have sexual relations with him.
Even if she was morally justified in doing so, a woman with young children might never be able to bring herself to kill her attacker-husband for fear that she will instantly make orphans out of those children.

I have read a few comments suggesting that a woman would be crazy or irrational for staying with her diseased spouse.
That isn't something I would say. She would be crazy, irrational, and/or immoral to have sex with him though, if he has HIV.

Can (1) be met in my scenario? I think so,...
I think not; manifestly not. It isn't that he insists on using a condom and she cooperates reluctantly, in your scenario. It is that she insists on the use of the condom: she insists on the act which is evil in itself.
If she has the option to choose whether or not there is a condom, and she has the option to choose whether or not there is sex, and she chooses sex with a condom, she has chosen an intinsically evil act. Open and shut, Vademicum or no Vademicum.
Again, I think your scenario is quite straightforward, and that her act would necessarily be evil no matter what the circumstances, as long as she is consenting (even under extreme pressure) to the sexual act.

I hope I haven't come across as soft on contraception. Your patience with me is appreciated Zippy.
I have read a few comments suggesting that a woman would be crazy or irrational for staying with her diseased spouse. The name escapes me, she may even be a Saint, but there was a woman in France who was cruelly treated by her husband. If I remember correctly from EWTN radio, she was beaten and humiliated, denied permission to attend mass, and other things. Anyway, she kept a diary that her husband read after her death. He converted and became a priest upon reading it. I'm thinking it was relatively (5 years) recently translated into English, and being given to students to read at some Catholic university.

Zippy wrote:
The Vademicum doesn't say that contraception in hard cases is OK (or that it isn't contraception). It says that it isn't always prudent for a confessor to crush a penitent's subjectively invincible ignorance. Anyone who uses the Vademicum to argue that contraception is objectively licit under certain extreme circumstances, or that consensual condomized sex is not contraception in some circumstances, has badly misused the document. (In my understanding, of course.)
No, I don't think the Vademicum teaches, nor I am arguing from it, that "contraception is objectively licit under certain extreme circumstances, or that consensual condomized sex is not contraception in some circumstances."
Consider the following quote from the Vademicum which I gave earlier in the comments for this blog entry.
Vademicum:
13. Special difficulties are presented by cases of cooperation in the sin of a spouse who voluntarily renders the unitive act infecund. In the first place, it is necessary to distinguish cooperation in the proper sense, from violence or unjust imposition on the part of one of the spouses, which the other spouse in fact cannot resist. This cooperation can be licit when the three following conditions are jointly met:
(1) when the action of the cooperating spouse is not already illicit in itself;
(2) when proportionally grave reasons exist for cooperating in the sin of the other spouse;
(3) when one is seeking to help the other spouse to desist from such conduct (patiently, with prayer, charity and dialogue; although not necessarily in that moment, nor on every single occasion).
Can (1) be met in my scenario? I think so, if it can be successfully argued that the wife's procuring condoms and requesting her husband to use them is motivated entirely by the intent to defend herself with *no intent* to contracept (though contraception is certainly a known secondary effect), and if sexual relations with her husband are unavoidable. This is obviously not an exact match to the situations the Vademicum was addressing, for in those cases the "cooperating spouse" is precisely the one who is not himself/herself choosing to procure, request or use contraception; but then the Vademicum does not seem to be written to address situations where one spouse has a fatal STD, and that same spouse is intent on forcing himself/herself on the other spouse.
What about (2)? The wife's grave reasons would be (A) to avoid physically violent rape; that is by remaining physically (if not mentally and emotionally) relaxed, or at least somewhat so, she avoids getting "beat up." (B) Since potential transmission of the virus is inevitable, given that sexual relations cannot be avoided (her husband will have his way in one manner or another), then the possibility of reducing the chances of her being fatally infected, perhaps greatly reducing those chances, is a grave reason that warrants condom use both for her own welfare and that of her children (her husband will be dead in a few years, and the children will be orphaned if she dies too).
What about (3)? This criteria can be fulfilled by the wife in the manner suggested.

Can you back up that assertion, please?
I am not asserting it myself, I am saying that that is what the Vademicum says. You can read it yourself, and I quoted the most relevant bit in my last post. It pretty much says outright that a confessor ought in some cases to leave a penitent in a state of good faith invincible ignorance rather than confronting them with the hard truth and risking the loss of that good faith.
That said, you've got to understand what the document is for: it is pastoral advice to confessors, not a doctrinal or theological document. It is commonly invoked by soft-on-contraception theologians as a theological document, even though that is explicitly not its purpose.
I would not be surprised if eventually it is explicitly "clarified" out of existence, since it seems to be the only official Church document anywhere that anyone has ever been able to use to waffle on contraception.

Zippy: You write: "It is better pastorally for a penitent in the confessional to be innocent out of ignorance rather than guilty in full knowledge and consent, and the confessional is the place where one brings ones known sins, not where one learns that one has been committing grave evil unknowingly."
Can you back up that assertion, please? If it were true, Christian charity would put moral teachers out of a job, since to inform one of the gravely sinful nature of any particular action would violate your assertion. It is surely better to hear it from one's confessor (and thus, to know) rather than to fool oneself into believing one's actions are not gravely sinful. In other words, many times, people know, deep down, of a particular action's sinful nature but can fool themselves into believing that it is not sinful. Better to face up to reality and thereby have an opportunity to be washed clean. As the psalmist says, "Cleanse me from my unknown faults."

And here is the bit where the Vademicum specifically makes the point I described:
The principle according to which it is preferable to let penitents remain in good faith in cases of error due to subjectively invincible ignorance, is certainly to be considered always valid, even in matters of conjugal chastity.
The Vademicum doesn't say that contraception in hard cases is OK (or that it isn't contraception). It says that it isn't always prudent for a confessor to crush a penitent's subjectively invincible ignorance.
Anyone who uses the Vademicum to argue that contraception is objectively licit under certain extreme circumstances, or that consensual condomized sex is not contraception in some circumstances, has badly misused the document. (In my understanding, of course.)

whosebob: You seem to have a very a low opinion of Africans.
I'm not trying to find or create a loophole for morally legitimate condomized sex.
And yet, it seems to me that you are. Isn't that exactly what you're doing? Your stand seems to be legitimizing rape. It seems to me that you're saying to the woman, "You better give it to him, otherwise he'll beat you up." And that's okay, 'cause, you MIGHT be able to get him to where a condom and maybe have a slightly smaller risk of dying from the horrible, awful disease that he contracted most likely from whoring around.
It's been well documented that the rise in condom and other contraceptive use coincides with the rise in STDs. Don't you think this'll only encourage the man to do what he wants. He's already proved he doesn't care enough about himself (otherwise he wouldn't have contracted the disease); why should he care about his wife? Condoms give him an excuse.

whosebob:
The intended audience of the Vademicum is (as the title says) confessors. Not all the faithful, not moral theologians, not penitents, not married couples, not spouses in difficult marriages, but confessors. The gist of it is that contraception is grave matter and engaging in it is a mortal sin when done with full knowledge and consent: however, when a penitent is ignorant of this fact it is not always prudent to rather brutally inform them of it, since that is as likely to result in apostasy as repentance if not handled delicately in some extreme circumstances. It is better pastorally for a penitent in the confessional to be innocent out of ignorance rather than guilty in full knowledge and consent, and the confessional is the place where one brings ones known sins, not where one learns that one has been committing grave evil unknowingly.
The Vademicum specifically does not provide a moral license to engage in contraception (and indeed is not addressed to penitents at all, but to confessors, most of whom in the Roman rite are celibate priests). Attempting to employ the Vademicum as moral theology justifying contraception in certain hard cases is a gross misuse of it, contrary to its (quite explicit) purpose. This has not prevented some moral theologians from misusing it in this way, however.

Zippy: No worries.
whosebob: The human race has never cured a virus. Ever. We don't even truly know whether or not viruses are technically "alive."
You write about "swift, though unjust, capital punishment by her community...." This is precisely what I'm referring to, sans the "unjust" part. Capital punishment is not intrinsically evil (unlike contraception) and in this hypothetical case you present, it is more than justified. Five minutes.
Also, can I ask you to please restrain your use of the word "duh" when directed at me? It's rude.

Mary: you aren't using the word "object" the way that Catholic Church uses the word "object" when referring to a human act. A human act consists of object, intent, and circumstances -- and specifically, the intent is distinct from the object. Colloquial meanings of "object" should not be confused with what the Church means when she refers to the object of an act.
...but the very requirement of "Proportionality" in just war...
You are conflating very different things here. In Catholic moral theology proportionality doesn't come into play until an act is determined not to be evil by nature of its object or, separately, its intended effects.

Double-effect only applies if (among other conditions) the evil occurrence is an effect of your act, not the object of your act
Err, no. The object of your actions is the act you intend.
Double-effect applies if there are two effects of your action, and the evil one is not more immediate than the good one, and you intend the good one (it being of sufficient important) but do not intend, merely know of, the evil one.
A doctor may wish that he had a painkiller that wouldn't shorten the life of a terminal patient in horrible pain, but he may chose to give the painkiller, with the object of lessening pain, even though he knows he is shortening the patient's life.
Again, the only problem with your terrorist example is that it is not clear about the military importance of the position. If the terrorist is waiting the moment to denotate four atomic bombs in various countries -- yes, you can bomb him and the innocent together. Just war theory requires that the innocent not be deliberately targetted, but the very requirement of "Proportionality" in just war (that the evils created by the war be less than the good sought) shows that they can not always be avoided.

Jared Weber wrote:
whosebob: You honestly expect a rapist to care whether his victim cries? If so, why wouldn't such a tactic work to get him to stop?
I don't know how to state it any better than I did before. This is his wife after all, he is not some anonymous rapist. And we are not talking about some one-time out-of-the-blue event, we're talking about a horrible event which may take place again and again until the time he dies of AIDS or is too sick to force himself upon her. The wife's emotional appeal coupled with the fact that it makes it easier for him to "get off" without so much physical disturbance (i.e. having to physically "beat her up") may realistically, I think, win him over to condom use at her request.
Jared Weber wrote:
Pastorally, in such a hypothetical situation as you set up, if the woman cannot be induced/is not capable of escape and/or licit means of self-defense (i.e. the death and/or emasculation or her attacker), another means must be procured. Five minutes should be about enough time to deal with such an evil individual.
I'm sorry, I need you to be more clear. Seriously, if you have an "easy way out" solution to this scenario, please share it with us.
Jared Weber:
Your gun analogy ... is not at all analogous. Killing a perpetrator is licit. Condom use is not. We've been over the reasons why.
And I agree 100% that contraception is never licit. And this analysis is *NOT* meant to apply when the woman does have some other choice (e.g. calling the police) or when both spouses are conscientous persons who will conform their actions to the Truth. I'm not trying to find or create a loophole for morally legitimate condomized sex.
Jared Weber:
On the hypothetical condom that stops HIV but not sperm? You do realize that HIV is quite a bit smaller than spermatazoa, yes? And quite a bit more resilient.
Yes, duh, I realize that. Or else I would have expressed dismay that such condoms aren't rolling off the factory floor and into the Catholic missions. The engineering required would have to involve some sort of chemically active and selective multi-layered membrane, or something like that. It's a **hope**, not something I think is likely to happen. I also hope that a complete cure will be found for HIV. I also pray for the conversion and salvation of such "Joes" who would subject their wives to such abuse, and for the heavenly and earthly protection of such unfortunate women. Peace.

Zippy wrote:
A lot of what you describe looks like consenting to sex though, albiet under a lot of pressure, in which case if she uses a condom it is contraception and intrinsically evil. Easy, open and shut case from a moral point of view. Catholics are not to do evil, period, not even when they are under a great deal of pressure to do evil, and not in the most difficult of circumstances (real or hypothetical).
No, it's not so "open and shut," or at least after reading this, Vademecum For Confessors Concerning Some Aspects Of The Morality Of Conjugal Life, I don't see this seemingly related case as being so easily "open and shut." She is *not*, according to my analysis, contracepting when procuring / using the condom even when *consenting* to the sex because she is defending her own life. She has only two other options: (1) to do something, according to my scenario, that will result in swift, though unjust, capital punishment by her community (i.e. kill or maim her husband); (2) fully resist her husband, get beat up and forcibly raped, and then have a near 100% chance of contracting HIV. To procure and request use of the condom is not *full consent* on her part -- she is merely facing up to what is truly or practically inevitable and taking the steps to protect herself; this is a limited consent resulting from coercion which enables her to escape further brutality, i.e. a classic case of the principle of double effect.
Please analyze further, I appreciate your feedback.

Sorry Jared, I meant to address my post to whosbob.

Jared: The pastoral issues are no doubt complex and difficult, as they always are. But the moral issue seems quite straightforward to me. If she is not in fact consenting to sex then whatever she does it can't be contraception, by definition. A lot of what you describe looks like consenting to sex though, albiet under a lot of pressure, in which case if she uses a condom it is contraception and intrinsically evil.
Easy, open and shut case from a moral point of view. Catholics are not to do evil, period, not even when they are under a great deal of pressure to do evil, and not in the most difficult of circumstances (real or hypothetical).

whosebob: You honestly expect a rapist to care whether his victim cries? If so, why wouldn't such a tactic work to get him to stop?
Pastorally, in such a hypothetical situation as you set up, if the woman cannot be induced/is not capable of escape and/or licit means of self-defense (i.e. the death and/or emasculation or her attacker), another means must be procured. Five minutes should be about enough time to deal with such an evil individual.
Your gun analogy ... is not at all analogous. Killing a perpetrator is licit. Condom use is not. We've been over the reasons why.
On the hypothetical condom that stops HIV but not sperm? You do realize that HIV is quite a bit smaller than spermatazoa, yes? And quite a bit more resilient.

Jared Weber wrote:
2: The position you are exploring (I don't know if you are advocating it or not) places more lives (not to mention souls, which are of prime importance) in jeopardy by creating an atmosphere wherein condom use is rationalized, rape de facto condoned, and the faithful confused. Condoms are, AT BEST, only nine tenths effective (much worse in most studies) and their use and, more to the point, the ADVOCACY of their usage, will result (indeed, it HAS resulted) in more orphans than we can fathom. In short, condom advocacy has already worsened the problem. Let's not seek to make the Church--the pillar and bulwark of Truth--complicit in this lie.
(1) Condom use is rationalized
Not necessarily, but it is obviously a serious concern that, as you say, the faithful [could be left] confused. But then what is an appropriate response? How should a young woman be counseled if she cannot avoid having sexual relations with her HIV-infected husband, and if she has no other recourse such as "skipping town," calling the police, obtaining a restraining order, or outright killing or maiming him when he makes *regular* *unjust* sexual advances. Although a condom won't protect her 100%, surely it is better than 0% protection? No?
Now, some here (or maybe it was at forums.catholic.com, or both) have suggested that it is not reasonable to expect that such an unjust man could be convinced to wear a condom. I disagree, for two reasons not independent of one another. (1) Never underestimate the potency of a woman's crying and tears and pleading, especially if she points to the children, for whom the man may well feel at least some genuine paternal affection and concern. Such a fuss might not work to convince him of the moral imperative to abstain completely, but I think it very well could lead to his wearing the condoms that his wife already has on hand, which she purchased previously for the sole purpose of defending herself. (2) If by wearing the condom the man is able to have physically peaceful, perhaps even not unpleasant, intercourse with his wife, versus having to force her to the bed/ground/wall, pry her legs apart, perhaps need to beat her to tire her out, and force himself upon her, he may very well choose that "peaceful" option every time.
I realize there are some other BIG secondary concerns if such a stance was officially promoted by the Church:
(1) How often is the woman obliged to verybally attempt to convince her husband that abstinence is the only moral route, and that he is doing a grave injustice to her and their children? Every time? And how often should she be required to bring her activities to the attention of her confessor? Must every instance be submitted for "review" in Confession prior to Holy Communion so that she does not grow slack in her obligation to choose this option ONLY if she has no other choice?
(2) Not independent from #1, it is important to not understemiate the love-resiliance of the tender heart of a woman, even for those family members who treat her wrongly, even for an abusive husband (and that's what it would be, abuse, even potentially lethal abuse). Even during the condomized-as-a-last-resort sex, she may -- after numerous recurrences -- begin to embrace her husband with tenderness and herself enjoy the sex. In other words, she may develop an unfortunately false confidence with regards to the condoms, and she may naturally begin to lose her intention to only engage in the activity (buying the condoms, requesting their use, etc.) only if it is absolutely necessary.
Those concerns being stated, I ask again, what is the morally correct pastoral respsonse in this situation? What if a conscientous poor Catholic woman in a country that is mostly lawless when it comes to abusive husbands approaches her pastor / confessor and asks if it is moral to see to it, as best she can, that her HIV-infected husband wears a condom while having sex with her, as she has no ability to prevent the sexual activity, short of something that will be instantly tragic for her and her children?
If the answer is "no," then what is a Catholic Faith-compatible answer? Is the priest obliged to shield her and other women in her situation (and their children) from their husbands? Does she have no other choice but to risk almost certain infection, and be consigend to a slow, painful death sentence? Does the priest, if the question was asked in the external forum, have a responsibility at that point to visit or call the husband to warn of the temporal injustice and eternal consequences of his actions?
If the answer is "yes" then, in the broader scheme of things, how does the Church act to assist these women? Again, are the priests or other personnel obligated as far as possible to directly warn the husbands of the terrible injustice they are commmitting? What if the woman has no money for condoms or there are no other relief agencies around that could give them to her -- can a Catholic parish/mission have them on-hand to distribute to women in that situation? Could the Church provide the woman with financial assitance to buy the condoms?
This is not an easy problem to address or solve ...
(please keep in mind that I am as committed the Truth and Catholic orthodoxy as much as the most orthodox-minded among the readers of this blog)
(2) Rape de facto is condoned and condoms are perceived to be advocated by Church
Is robbery condoned if a police officer encourages someone in a really bad neighborhood to consider keeping a hand-gun in the house (yes, I do realize that a hand-gun is not the same as a condom, but still) and using it to defend themselves if they have no other choice? Now, the citizen's efforts to protect his life and possessions should not stand alone; the police should begin working extra hard to prevent crime and apprehend criminals in that neighborhood. Likewise, it is unthinkable that the Church should make such an "allowance" (and it wouldn't truly be an "allowance" per se), and not at the same time have her priests, deacons, and other personnel work extra hard to teach the HIV-infected husbands that they do a great, damnable injustice to their non-infected wives if they make sexual advances upon them. Would those priests, etc. do so? Unfortunately, many might not, but I'm not sure it changes the moral evaluation of the woman's options.
Would the Church be advocating condom production and usage if it made such a clarification? Well, I'm sure the document would state that the Church NEVER EVER condones the use of aritificial contraception nor does it believe that this condomized sex is somehow positive or good for these poor wives or the husband and wife as a couple. The Church would emphatically state that it is only defending the act of self-defense. But, yes, it would probably be perceived that the Church had "changed its mind" on the evil nature of condoms.
Again, this is not an easy or simple issue ...
And again, I hope that some clever Catholic engineers and scientists might be able somehow to invent a condom that would permit sperm to pass through while blocking / neutralizing / absorbing / killing the HIV-virus (or other STD germs).
If Pope Benedict XVI does indeed issue a clarification along the lines I've proposed, the document had better be a masterpiece of moral and pastoral theology, carefully re-explaining and applying the Church's whole mind on this issue as expressed in the last century. Deus Caritas Est would seem like a "cupcake" in comparison to it. Hail Mary ...

...but I cannot see how condom use in this case can be considered a contraceptive act.
I'll give it one more try, perhaps with an analogy thrown in for good measure.
I assume that by "this case" you mean the consensual case, and of course this all remains my view and my view only (though I do think I am right, hah!)
To contracept is to choose to perform an otherwise ordinary act of intercourse, but to intentionally modify it in such a way as to make it infertile. The infertility isn't an effect of the act, it is intrinsic to the object of the act - an essential part of which is the modification of ordinary intercourse that the person chooses. Note that this is not what the person wishes he could choose to do, but what he actually chooses to do. Wishful thinking and intent are not the same thing.
By analogy, say the bombadier knows that the Mosque is filled with innocent people and a terrorist. The terrorist is not next to the (known to be) innocent people in a different building, he is among them. The bombadier may wish he could bomb the terrorist and the terrorist alone, but he knows he cannot, so he chooses to bomb the terrorist and the innocents together. He cannot claim that he doesn't intend to bomb the innocents just because he wishes he could bomb the terrorist without bombing the innocents.
Double-effect only applies if (among other conditions) the evil occurrence is an effect of your act, not the object of your act: it can't be what you are directly choosing. Double-effect is not a general license to do whatever you choose as long as you sincerely wish that what you were doing only had good effects.
I posted on double-effect recently here.
And as usual, it is entirely possible that I am completely full of it. But I don't think so.

Zippy,
I greatly respect your opinion. You are precise and definitive, which I appreciate. You may not be able to get me past this, but I cannot see how condom use in this case can be considered a contraceptive act. I have no issue with the claim that sex would be an incomplete act and surely deficient. I have no issue with stating that abstinance is the ideal in such a situation. I just don't see how one can state objectively that a person is condemned to hell for protecting their own life.

After someone has been sterilized and then repented and confessed their sins, they may have marrital relations without having the procedure reversed.
As far as I know this is a common assumption but is not the authoritative teaching of the Magisterium. I believe the Magisterium is silent on this particular case and that a number of reasonable people have extrapolated to this conclusion; but their extrapolations are far from definitive, and I have yet to see one that was not rationally flawed in one or more ways.

I can at least respect Zippy's position - if I have it correct - that if a person has sterilized oneself that they cannot have relations. This is at least morally consistent.
I should point out that there is a potential distinction here also though. A marital act that is accidentally or naturally sterile is one kind of act. A marital act that is sterile because of what someone has done to himself on purpose at some time in the past, wishes he had not done, and would undo if he could, is a different kind of act. And a marital act which one modifies in the moment it is performed in a way that renders it sterile is still a third kind of act.
It is possible that a marital act by someone who intentionally sterilized himself (and repented of it sincerely without reversing it) is licit; but not because he doesn't intend to perform an intentionally sterilized act when he chooses to have sex. He obviously does choose to perform a sex act that has been modified and made sterile by his own choice.
So I tend toward thinking that someone who has intentionally sterilized himself literally cannot perform (literally is incapable of performing) a morally good marital act; but it isn't necessarily the case, and the Church has not authoritatively told us one way or the other, as far as I know.
It seems quite clear to me that someone who nows he has HIV cannot perform (literally cannot, as in is physically incapable of performing) a morally licit marital act.
These are, of course, just my view of the matter, though I think my view is consistent with what the Church teaches.

M.Z. Forrest,
You are focusing entirely on the procrative dimension, ignoring the unitive dimension. The desruption of the unitive dimension of sex makes contraception wrong in all circumstances.
You are misunderstanding Jared's argument. It is not that using condoms makes a given sexual act more dangerous. It is that advocating their use makes people wrongly think they are safe if they use a condom, which theoretically leads to less abstinence and perhaps more infection and death.
Sterilization is a mortal sin. After someone has been sterilized and then repented and confessed their sins, they may have marrital relations without having the procedure reversed. As with those who are sterile or infertile for other reasons, the person is not deliberately placing any obstical to procreation within the sexual act.

No. That is not a legitimate end. That would be like me claiming
a) Firing a gun is wrong.
b) Defending yourself is just an excuse you have.

Jared,
There is no change of teaching involved. Contraception is the use of devices to avoid pregnancy. Wearing a condom while having sex with your HIV infected spouse is protecting yourself from death. If you mean to tell me that a spouse is less likely to contract AIDS by having free intercourse than by using a condom, you are crazy.
I can at least respect Zippy's position - if I have it correct - that if a person has sterilized oneself that they cannot have relations. This is at least morally consistent.

MZ and whosebob:
I'll simplify my previous points (in hopes of not breaking DaRulz) and I'll put my main points in bold:
1: The Church is not going to change her position on this. The matter is closed. What MAY happen is that the Magisterium might expound on its existing teaching, in the same way that, in The Theology of the Body, JP2 expounded on Humanae Vitae.
2: The position you are exploring (I don't know if you are advocating it or not) places more lives (not to mention souls, which are of prime importance) in jeopardy by creating an atmosphere wherein condom use is rationalized, rape de facto condoned, and the faithful confused. Condoms are, AT BEST, only nine tenths effective (much worse in most studies) and their use and, more to the point, the ADVOCACY of their usage, will result (indeed, it HAS resulted) in more orphans than we can fathom.
In short, condom advocacy has already worsened the problem. Let's not seek to make the Church--the pillar and bulwark of Truth--complicit in this lie.

Late to the party, but there are a couple points I felt had not been addressed:
John-
I agree with your moral conclusion that use of condoms does not in any way comply with Catholic teaching and those in the hierarchy that suggest it may be licit are extraordinarily wrong (and will very likely learn this very soon when the Vatican re-asserts the teaching.)
However, to suggest that AIDS is no longer a death sentence ignores the reality of the situation in Africa. Africa truly has an AIDS crisis that is killing many millions of people, even if AIDS is less of a problem in the US.
Jeremy-
Regarding the hierarchy of sexual sins, I refer you to what Aquinas has to say in Summa Theologica. Basically, he rates the sins of fornication, adultery, and rape (in that order -assuming natural intercourse takes place) as less grave than the "unnatural sins" of "the sin of not observing the right manner of copulation" (wrong receptacle); followed by sodomy (correct species, wrong gender) and then beastiality (wrong species). In that order (least to gravest). http://www.newadvent.org/summa/315412.htm
Now, obviously, saying rape is less grave than masturbation isn't exactly PC these days, but admittedly there is a logic to it.
So to answer your question from a Thomist POV - condomistic sex ("the sin of not observing the right manner of copulation") before marriage is graver than simple fornication because it is considered a sin against nature.

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