What Kind Of Coke I Drink

by Jimmy Akin

in Diet

Yesterday’s mention that I drink a kind of diet coke that doesn’t have caffeine or Aspartame prompted some questions about what kind I do drink.

Actually, it varies. Here’s a selection . . .

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None of these kinds of diet coke have either caffeine or Aspartame in them. They are all sweetened with Splenda.

Here are a few notes on them:

1) Diet 7-UP used to have Aspartame but got rid of it a while back. It is the easiest form of Aspartame-free diet coke to find. One note though: There are variants of Diet 7-UP that still DO use Aspartame, such as Diet Cherry 7-UP. Beware of these. It is the regular Diet 7-UP that you want.

2) Diet Rite is also commonly found in supermarkets, and it was the first diet coke to chuck Aspartame in favor of Splenda, as far as I can tell. It comes in several flavors, which the Royal Crown company (which makes Diet Rite) switches around from time to time. They always have a Cola flavor (which, for some strange reason, upsets my stomach; I think I’m allergic to this flavor, though other people obviously aren’t), and lately they’ve had White Grape and Raspberry (which do just fine by my stomach). Occasionally they have Tangerine or other flavors. At the moment they have Cherry Cola, so I’ll see how that does with my stomach.

3) Diet Hansen’s has a BUNCH of different flavors. Pictured here are three of my favorites (which is why I had them on hand): Peach, Kiwi-Strawberry, and Black Cherry. They also have Tangerine-Lime, Ginger Ale, Root Beer, and Grapefruit. MORE INFO. The Diet Hansen’s drinks taste really good (or at least my favorites do). It’s a little harder to find Diet Hansen’s, though. I get it at Henry’s and Trader Joe’s, but I’ve also seen it showing up at some local Vons. You can also order it online.

Incidentally, all of these drinks (Diet 7-UP, Diet Rite, Diet Hansen’s) are also sodium free–so they’re not trying to Ferengi you into drinking more of their product by putting salt in it to make you thirsty (unlike most forms of coke).

There are also other, similar caffeine-free, Aspartame-free kinds of coke, but these are the ones that I drink the most and thus the ones that I had on hand.

BTW, a word about why you might want to avoid caffeine and Aspartame . . .

Most folks know that caffeine can make you feel wired, keep you awake, etc. And some people use it precisely in order to stay awake. I’m not opposed to that in principle. However, caffeine also has some side-effects that people don’t commonly know about.

If you drink enough of it quickly enough, it will raise your blood sugar (which is bad for diabetics and dieters) and it will raise your adrenalin (which is bad if you have high blood pressure or heart palpitations). INFO HERE. Caffeine is safe for most people in moderation–or at least safe enough that they’re willing to live with the obvious side-effects–but it’s something that I avoid as part of my diet since I don’t want my blood sugar raised.

Aspartame is another story. There is a huge controversy over the safety of Aspartame, and for a long time I didn’t pay it any mind. I generally don’t get freaked out about safety claims made regarding products that are being consumed by millions of people. If there’s a significant problem with the product then, in the long run, science will out.

But I started doing some research on Aspartame and found out some things that concerned me enough that I decided to cut it out of my diet. It breaks down into chemicals that I really don’t like. It does this at surprisingly low temperatures, too (lower than body temperature), which is why diet cokes that contain Aspartame frequently have gone "stale" before you open the can. They’ve been exposed to heat that causes the Aspartame to break down and they taste funny.

Even if they haven’t broken down already in the can, they will break down in your body, and one of the things they break down into is phenylalanine. Phenylalanine is something I’m familiar with from my diet and nutrition studies.

Phenylalanine is an amino acid that is common in nature. There’s some of it basically whenever we eat meat. But that form of phenylalanine is slowly-absorbed and is pretty safe. If you’re taking a nutritional supplement or chugging down diet cokes or certain protein drinks, though, it’s another story. In this setting phenylalanine is absorbed much more quickly and causes a spike of the amino acid in your blood stream.

For certain people, who can’t metabolize phenylalanine, Aspartame is very dangerous. These people have a condition known as phenylketonuria, and if they consume phenylalanine it will cause BRAIN DAMAGE.

In your body, about HALF of the Aspartame in a diet coke converts into phenylalanine, which is why products containing Aspartame are required to carry a warning label that says "Phenylketonurics: Contains phenylalanine."

Now, phenylketonuria is rare (though it is more common among people of Irish descent), and if you have it, you’d already know about it. It’s one of the things they test for right after birth, and if you’ve never been told that you have it then you don’t.

But phenylketonurics aren’t the only people who need to watch out for getting a phenylalanine spike in their blood.

Some dieters take phenylalanine because it suppresses hunger (a good thing for dieters), but in significant numbers of people it has bad side-effects, like raising your heart rate and blood pressure (not good things for people who are overweight).

If you have been chugging down diet cokes–even caffeine-free ones–and find your heart racing or pounding or your blood pressure staying higher than it should be, it may be the phenylalanine spike in your blood stream that the diet cokes are causing.

There are a lot of other criticisms that are made of Aspartame, but I already knew about phenylalanine from my own diet and nutrition studies, so when I found out that 50% of Aspartame turns into phenylalanine, that was enough to convince me to cut it out of my diet.

Y’all can make your own decisions, of course, but I’m not waiting for the science to catch up on this one. To my mind, Aspartame is too risky. I’ll stick with other sweeteners, like Splenda or Stevia.

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Nice, my GI tract in a mess then. Been using soda for years to clean my car battery post and other things. Very good post.

Nice, my GI tract in a mess then. Been using soda for years to clean my car battery post and other things. Very good post.

I only eat diet stuff if it tastes exactly like the non-diet original. Like Coca-Cola Zero (the only downside to that product is that it loses its soda way too quickly).

You have done a good job here. This is something what every person should know.

If you're drinking splenda, you should probably go ahead and drink aspartame. Splenda just has different types of artificial sweeteners. Stick with the hansens... it doesnt have any.

don't ban dihodrogen monoxide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't drink soda in an effort to avoid sugar. Even diet I try to avoid. Coffee is my caffeine drink. How bad is coffee for you?

i hate soda.. and you research has proven that i have done the right thing!

found your post via Google...will encourage my nephew to read this post as he loves drinking Soda
My opinion, whether it is diet or non diet soda, we all should be drinking water. It's whole lot better and healthier.

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Great article - I love it that sales of diet Coke are down as well :-)

As some have pointed out before, it is not Coke if it is not Coke. It's not like Xerox. Calling Sprite Coke is like calling apple juice orange juice, it just doesn't make sense. I don't care what part of the country you are from. Dialects are fine but this usage is nonsense.

How exactly is the sentence "It is not Xerox if it is not Xerox" different from the sentence "It is not Coke if it is not Coke"?
Or how is the sentence "Calling Canon Xerox is like calling apple juice orange juice, it just doesn't make sense" different from the sentence "Calling Sprite Coke is like calling apple juice orange juice, it just doesn't make sense"?
This seems utterly abitrary to me. (Or were you joking, and I was just too humor-impaired to get it?)

Hey, calling soft drinks Coke makes perfect sense here in Atlanta, where Coke was born. In this context, in the early 20th century, where the first and only soft drink you ever had was Coke, anything else that came along was just another variety of the same thing, just like Puffs is another variety of Kleenex and Curad is another variety of Bandaids.
But the influx from the north has diluted our proud heritage and alas!, most now say soft drinks or soda. Cursed be the word "pop!" I hate it!
At any rate, I only drink water and occasionally milk or tea now, so moot for me.

I'm 100% Irish and I just can't get enough Diet Coke (the real kind, all loaded up with yummy caffeine and Nutrasweet...)

J.R.,
Calling Sprite Coke is like calling apple juice orange juice, it just doesn't make sense. I don't care what part of the country you are from. Dialects are fine but this usage is nonsense.
I agree that it is odd to call Sprite or any other lemon-lime beverage "coke." But many people consider "coke" to be synonymous with "cola" (and don't be fooled, the good folks at Coca-Cola absolutely love that fact, they just have to act like they don't to protect their trademark rights) and every dark (non-fruity) soft drink to be just another flavor of cola. At least to that point, it doesn't seem that illogical to me.

In Vino Veritas!!
Newer negatives are being discovered re: Splenda - well, what did you expect?!
Aspartame is probably THE most studied sugar substitute out there ... and it's still out there!
Recent studies say caffeine helps prevent Alzheimers.
In KY it's "soft drinks" ... no soda, pop, soda pop, etc. A soda is the traditional one from the fountain!
No amount of worry will change the appointed time!

What I find most personally interesting is the info about the sensitivity to aspartame being more common among people of Irish descent"....
I am of ( at least, predominantly) Irish descent, & from my first taste of the stuff, I have always developed a pounding migraine from the tiniest amount.
The most I have ever heard before was "Yeah, it does that with some people".
I avoid it, & dream of the days when I could buy diet drinks with saccharine. (Yes, I know about the lab rats.;-) Not being of the family rodentia, I let them worry about it...).

As some have pointed out before, it is not Coke if it is not Coke. It's not like Xerox. Calling Sprite Coke is like calling apple juice orange juice, it just doesn't make sense. I don't care what part of the country you are from. Dialects are fine but this usage is nonsense.

Rabbits? Rabbits??
I have recipes for rabbits!!!

I just love these non-apologetic threads because the rabbit trails just go off in all directions.
That's what I love about Jimmy's blog.
It's not strictly apologetics -- it has other 'crap' in it! ;^)

Tim M. -
I find your slanderous reference to rabbits highly offensive.
Stop DHMO testing on rabbits!!!

hokiepundit:
LOL!!! where? what color was the bicycle?!?!? :)
thank you!
so many issue here where to start?:
1. I agree ... all diet stuff tastes yucky... I don't do diet.
2. non-dairy creamer.... white death indeed! half and half and / or cream is white heaven!
3. where did sugar get such a bad name? 100% natural... non-refined is so good for you.
4. High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) - not good for you... slipped into the food chain in the mid 80's and it's in EVERYTHING. There is no way for the human body to assimilate this - thus... resulting in the epidemic of obesity that we see all around us.
5. "Those of you so strongly against calling all soda "coke," do you call all adhesive bandages "Band-aids?""
> what do you call the tissue you blow your nose with... a "Kleenex"?
> what do you call the fastener that you "zip" your clothes up with... a "Zipper"?
6. I just love these non-apologetic threads because the rabbit trails just go off in all directions.

Yes, H 2 o can have all those effects in various situations.
Dihydrogen Monoxide.....is WATER.
Darn!
Somebody actually pulled the plug on the joke!
It would've been awesome if people got so tensed up, they actually started coming off Jimmy's blog, marching up and down city hall, protesting with signs saying, "Down with Dihydrogen Monoxide!"

Unfortunatly I don't drink enough of it to worry me.
What I do worry about is the undue stress caused to unsuspecting people who now left this blog thinking they need to get tested for DHMO poisoning. Poor people. DHMO was a great lesson to many to really do your research and be able to think critically. A town in California actually was considering a ban on DHMO until they shame-facedly were informed by a scientist that it is....Water. Ahhh, that would have been money well spent!

So,, we've established that water is dangerous and should not be part of the diet of humans! It's just too risky!

Yes, H 2 o can have all those effects in various situations.
Dihydrogen Monoxide.....is WATER.

The following are the effects of Dihydrogen Monoxide in Humans;
Decreased thirst response
Increased blood pressure
Weight gain
Intoxicative dementia
Internal rupturing
Aneurysm
Vascular failure
Removal of skin oil
Skin blistering
Exacerbation of hypothermia
Hyponatremia
Electrolyte imbalances
Renal stress
Light-headedness
Excessive sweating
Excessive urination
Cerebral swelling
Drowning
Edema
Coma
Death
The consumption of or even exposure to dihydrogen monoxide has been proven to cause all of these conditions *in humans* when administered in the right conditions (dosage, temperature). I think we can all see just how dangerous this substance is! BEWARE! BEWARE!

If you would like more info on Dhmo (H 2 O ) type dhmo hoax and search.
Here is an interesting link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4534017/

I hope the Dhmo comments are in jest.
Dihodrogen Monoxide is just another name for water, and the 'Dangers' of it were circulated as a hoax to show people how to research scientific information for its validity.

But what is the fastest way to get those tasty beverages cold?
The answer here!
Good to know for those of us to don't have Jimmy's free fridge space... :)

I suddenly feel so victorious =)
Forgot, Congratz!

A-HA! I knew it!! Take that, everyone who said I was crazy for thinking the Coke from soda fountains tastes different than the one from cans! I suddenly feel so victorious =)
Well, that's not at all a revelation since most soda fountains out there don't properly distribute the right amount of carbonated water and soda syrup for the most part. This is why you might not get the same taste as that in a can.
On another note, if you taste coke out of a bottle vs. that in a can, you may find that drinking coke from out of a bottle taste even better instead from a can since the can itself can also affect the taste of the coke due to the aluminum, while glass is usually the best container to put things in because it hardly affects the liquid it contains.

After DHMO gets released in the atmosphere air currents bring it up to the north pole where, after mutating into its more deadly form, settles in the environment there. Research suggests that the bodies of the Inuit people are just saturated with the stuff!

I really don't see what is so evil about having a regular soda sweetened with (gasp!) corn syrup every once in a while? Sodas of any sort shouldn't be consumed regularly in a diet anyway, so what is the point of risking the affects of Aspartame or Splenda, etc.
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There is probably a lot more DHMO in your body than you realize.
There are many thousands of human deaths every year attributable to DHMO. True, in small quantities and with proper handling it can be beneficial, but everyone should educate tehmselves on the dangers of DHMO in larger quantities.

So if you think fountain diet coke tastes different, it DOES!
A-HA! I knew it!! Take that, everyone who said I was crazy for thinking the Coke from soda fountains tastes different than the one from cans! I suddenly feel so victorious =)
A candidate for kidney stones?
Bah, this won't ruin my little victory for me. No.
That monóxido de dihidrógeno stuff truly scares me. I should inform my friends and family!

Oh and as far as poisonous additives to beverages, there is a big one out there that is a killer. It's called dihyrdogen monoxide. Here's a website about it.
http://www.dhmo.org/

Wow, what a day, I meant to post back shortly and tell Jimmy I was joking about the coke thing, but work kept me busy and I didn't think about it until just moments ago. Here in Ohio, I know fully well that coke, pop, soda are all interchangeable and I was just trying to give Jimmy a rough time.
Next time I'll make sure I can post a follow-up sooner if I am going to rib Mr. Akin.

"phenylketonuria is rare (though it is more common among people of Irish descent)"
and all this time I thought it was the whiskey that gave me brain damage.

...and is the leading cause of global warming (I am not making this up! It's true!).
Actually, you just may be right!

I believe that saccharine is still used in diet coke in fountain drinks. At a job several years ago, I asserted this and was called out on it.
We called the customer service line at Coke and she informed us this was true. So if you think fountain diet coke tastes different, it DOES!
I love both versions. I'll switch over to the generic 'cokes' in Mr. Akin's fridge as soon as I start attending Clown and Polka masses (as in ... NEVER).

But definitely beware of DHMO, the silent killer, which is added to most of our food and drink products. It's a universal solvent, for crying out loud! Imagine what that is doing to your GI tract, and your nervous system!
I hear it's also in the air we breathe and is the leading cause of global warming (I am not making this up! It's true!).

Splenda is one of the greatest inventions ever.

Just in case you don't know:
What you may find surprising are some of the products and places where DHMO is used, but which for one reason or another, are not normally made part of public presentations on the dangers to the lives of our family members and friends. Among these startling uses are:
-as an additive to food products, including jarred baby food and baby formula, and even in many soups, carbonated beverages and supposedly "all-natural" fruit juices
- in cough medicines and other liquid pharmaceuticals,
-in spray-on oven cleaners,
-in shampoos, shaving creams, deodorants and numerous other bathroom products,
-in bathtub bubble products marketed to children,
-as a preservative in grocery store fresh produce sections,
-in the production of beer by all the major beer distributors,
-in the coffee available at major coffee houses in the US and abroad,
-in Formula One race cars, although its use is regulated by the Formula One Racing Commission,
and
-as a target of ongoing NASA planetary and stellar research.

The poison is in the dose.
To find that aspartame or sucralose were actually harmful to humans in normal consumption qualities, you'd have to have repeatable, double-blind tests with a sufficient population of test subjects.
But definitely beware of DHMO, the silent killer, which is added to most of our food and drink products. It's a universal solvent, for crying out loud! Imagine what that is doing to your GI tract, and your nervous system!

...I don't drink water. Most of it tastes nasty. I know water is supposed to be flavorless, and that's precisely why I find the taste of water so nasty. It's very hard to find water that actually tastes like nothing.
A candidate for kidney stones?

PBXVI - finally, somebody with some sanity!
I only eat diet stuff if it tastes exactly like the non-diet original. Like Coca-Cola Zero (the only downside to that product is that it loses its soda way too quickly). I can drink Diet Coke (as in Coca-Cola) too, but for some reason the Diet Coke they give you in fast food restaurants tastes nasty, almost as nasty as Diet Pepsi.
No cola, Jimmy? *shakes head in disbelief*
...I don't drink water. Most of it tastes nasty. I know water is supposed to be flavorless, and that's precisely why I find the taste of water so nasty. It's very hard to find water that actually tastes like nothing.

I certainly try! I love Trader Joe's, a great alternative to the local grocery, yet even there I read the labels.
Having grown up on a farm I have a strong craving for 'food'. Whole milk fresh from the cow, home made unpasturized cheese, fresh vegitables, fresh meat that was raised in pasture. Great stuff. When I went to college I almost gagged at every meal (reputable Catholic school with horrible, horrible food. The meat came in boxes that said Grade B Meat, processed for human consumption.)

Being of child bearing years I generally avoid anything that has such side effects in the rodent population.
rsps:
If that's the case, you might want to re-consider most of the things that you buy in your neighborhood grocery store.

Dr. Eric
Thanks for the kudos.
And if anyone wants the links to the clinical rodent trials they are available on line;
http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/
Though they are on a holistic med. website they are the actual trial results. Some of the lingo is very tech/medical, but easy to read. These were the pre-approval trials for the fda and the trail conclusion is as follows;
"While it is unlikely that sucralose is as toxic as the poisoning people are experiencing from Monsanto's aspartame, it is clear from the hazards seen in pre-approval research and from its chemical structure that years or decades of use may contribute to serious chronic immunological or neurological disorders."
Being of child bearing years I generally avoid anything that has such side effects in the rodent population. ; - )

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