The Economics of Magic

by Jimmy Akin on July 22, 2007

in Fiction

I am not a fan of the Harry Potter novels. I know lots of people who are, including people who are serious Catholics, but I’m uncomfortable with them for a variety of reasons.

While they’re not going to turn every kid who reads them into a practitioner of Wicca, at least some kids will be influenced by the novels into exploring the occult. That’s a risk that is taken whenever magic is explored in fiction. Lord of the Rings did the same thing.

The thing about literature (fiction or non-fiction) is that somebody in the audience is always going to go off in some crazy direction based on what they read.

Want proof?

Let’s take a very well-known piece of literature . . . the best-selling book in human history, in fact: The Bible.

Has anybody gone off in a crazy direction after reading that?

Well, let’s see . . . Marcion, Sabellius, Montanus, Tertullian, Arius, . . . uh, the list might get a little long, so let’s move on.

Authors can’t let the fact that somebody in the audience is going to go nuts based on what they write stop them from writing. If they did, we wouldn’t have the Bible. But authors can craft their work in a way that tries to minimize potential harmful effects, and I have sympathy for those who think that J.K. Rowling didn’t do as good a job of this in writing the Harry Potter series as J.R.R. Tolkien did in the Lord of the Rings.

And the fact is that the vast majority of kids who read Harry Potter are not going to turn into neopagans, so I can’t tell people that it’s morally impermissible for any child to read them.

There is another reason I’m uncomfortable with them: I just don’t like the way they’re written.

Now, you know what they say about disputing about tastes, and if Harry Potter is something that you really enjoy and that doesn’t challenge your faith then good for you. But I think that Rowling did not do a good job in several respects literarily, and here’s why.

I read the first novel back when there was a huge controversy about it and whether it was healthy for children, and from the opening pages I found myself not liking it. The reason is that Rowling is just too ham fisted in how she sets the plot in motion.

Harry Potter–the character, not the book series–is the most important boy in the magical world, yet he doesn’t know it.

Until chapter two. (Or whatever.)

Then, as soon as he’s introduced into the magical world, he’s suddently the center of attention, people are fawning all over him, privilege is lavished upon him, and a glorious new future is handed to him on a silver platter.

Too. Much. Wish. Fulfillment.

This is bad plotting. Harry Potter is catapulted out of ordinary life to the apex of magical society virtually instantaneously. There may be lots of interesting concepts that Rowling uses as tinsel to sparkle up her world–and this is what I think people really find attractive about the books (the tinsel, not the substance)–but you don’t slather on the wish fulfillment in this way.

Not unless you’re writing fan fic.

If you really want to have somebody be the most important boy in the world, you let this fact emerge piecemeal, a bit at a time, with the character paying his dues as his true identity becomes clear.

If you want to see that plot done right,

CHECK OUT THIS BOOK.

BTW, I recently gave this book to Steve and Janet Ray and they loved it.

Others have also commented on the ham fisted way Rowling writes–in fact the piece I’m about to link even uses the term "ham fisted."

It’s a piece by an economics reporter who looks at the bad economics in the book–and she doesn’t mean money. She means the magical economy:

If magic is too powerful then the characters will be omnipotent gods, and there won’t be a plot. Magic must have rules and limits in order to leave the author enough room to tell a story. In economic terms, there must be scarcity: magical power must be a finite resource.

GET THE STORY.

Comments have been disabled for this post.
Sort: Newest | Oldest

the book is just made up and maybe people shouldnt be so sensative i am 14 and when i read something or watch something i dont get stupid ideas to join a cult or kill myself or have underage sex or to be influenced in to doing anything because i realize when it comes down to it you and only you as an individual can come to the conclusion that yes i will or no i wont people in todays society are so weak and pathetic just like people who believe in god why dont you take responsability for your actions or just admit that you dont know live your life and jump off a building so in conclusion it is just a bok just magic or in simpler words just entertainment for mindless idiots and you obviously havnt earned it yet and if you are a parent and your kid read harry potter or saw the movie and took it to heart or thaught you could live your life like that or joined a cult youu are a bad parent and who are you to saw joinig a cult is really a bad thing

Just another reason why the Potter books literally sux:
LINK:
J.K. Rowling Outs Hogwarts Character

Right, right, but the world is one big spoiler for that book now. There does need to be a bit of a statute of limitations on such things.
That being said, if someone specifically asks, I think reasonable precaution to help them avoid spoilers is not only an act of charity, but the decent thing to do. However, not discussing relevant material for months while clearly warning is kind of silly, and leads to a lack of practical discussion.
It'd be like if someone called me out for blowing Perelandra's plot despite my warnings. I mean, it's only been out a few decades, I'm sure SOMEONE hasn't read it. Actually, a few years back, that someone would have been me. I'd have expected spoiler warnings for courtesy's sake, but not people to not discuss it, especially with the ending of that book having some interesting theological statements.

Mary,
I believe that was J.R. Stoodley's point.

If there are people who mind spoilers, it is an elementary act of charity to refrain from putting spoilers in their path.

True, true. It's hard to tell people "oh, just trust me, the 7th book makes it all clear, but I won't say what"... (and if you've read it, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. :) )
There actually have been some nice Potter discussions on Mark Shea's blog, and I've been buzzing about there lately. I can respect Jimmy's tastes not running to Potter, not every book is for everyone. I personally find this kind of literature more important, obviously, while finding some more "important and mature" type literature to be meaningless and/or offensive, but it's a matter of tastes.
I think the real key is just to not mindlessly slander Rowling and what many believe to be a very Christian work. It's not charitable and it's not helpful to the Church. Sadly, some who say much about the books and their "evil" content know very little about the books, often being proud of not even trying to read any, let alone follow the story to its very end where the purpose is truly revealed.

I don't think the book deserves that much of noteworthy attention.
I just thought that if there is any substantive discussion to be had on this very thread, then actual material from the book should be rendered in order to facilitate any such discussion.

Esau -- others -- if you think that there are issues in Deathly Hallows that could really bear being thrashed out in a Catholic forum and that this blog is the best forum that you can think of, you could write to Jimmy and ask him if he could start a SPOILER WARNING thread.
He may not, of course, seeing as this is his blog and he's not a fan.

Just picking on you, Jarnor23. ;^)
About good books, you may want to read "Rich Dad, Poor Dad".
Although I may know of some well-to-do-folks, I, myself, am certainly far from it in comparison.
This was a popular book in our church back in the days as well as in college.
It won't make you 'infomercial' rich, but it does help provide a whole other mindset.

Merely pointing out that if the problem was the quality of the book was denying a hardcover, then that needn't be an issue.
Were I in a better financial state I'd love to pull an Oprah and buy everyone a copy of it. And the Narnia and LOTR to boot. :) As it is, sadly, I'll have to reiterate my suggestion of local libraries. Despite the grousing one often hears here about taxes, I think those are a fine use of those dollars. Sure beats some of the OTHER things the government wants to do with it anyway.

J.R. Stoodley,
It seems that Jarnor23 has just volunteered to purchase Book 7 for you! ;^)
Jarnor23, you're such swell brother in the Faith!

Easy solution then, 7's a really good book. At least on a scale where Narnia would be up there. :)

Esau,
I figured you were half joking but also really wanted to say something about book 7.
I am trying to borrow the book from my exgirlfriend (yes, ex now Esau, though it's complicated) before college starts but it may not happen. After that it would have to wait till December.
I like hardcovers for really good books, but softcovers for brain candy like Harry Potter.

I just don't like softcovers, they never hold up to reading abuse over time.
Yeah -- but they sure are cheap and convenient for travels.

A tactic I find useful for long threads is to do a text find on my name from the bottom up. If it's in a post, I ignore and hit "find previous" until I find my last post. Then I proceed downwards from there and get all spoiler warnings, etc.
BTW, you might want to check out your local library, they probably have a few copies. Of course, those copies may well be checked out. Borrowing a friend's copy's not a bad idea either. Trust me, I know money doesn't grow on trees! Of course, I was quite impressed with how low the price was for my copy for a hardcover. I just don't like softcovers, they never hold up to reading abuse over time.

J.R. Stoodley,
Speaking strictly for myself, I was just kidding with you (hence, the j/k).
No worries!
At least, you weren't one of those folks who (quite opposite from your situation) ended up getting the book days before its scheduled release date.

It's not that I'm reading it right now and am just slow. I don't actually have access to the book right now and likely won't for a couple weeks at least. It isn't worth it to me to go out and buy the expensive hardcover edition. I guess that's my own fault, but still.
Also, once a thread had gotten long it is much easier to start at the bottom than try to find where new material starts from the top.
If you guys really think something in the last book is a big deal you can talk about it and I'll just not read this thread anymore. I'm afraid some other overtrusting person might stumble across something they didn't want to know, but oh well.

J.R., on this one, I think you're vastly outnumbered, indeed possibly a minority of one.

Actually, Publius raises a good point in his above comments.
However, as regards the pace at which certain books are read, I would argue that reading what's basically a fantasy book out of leisure may be completed more promptly (given adequate time) than one that deals with, say, the intricacies of science.
The latter often has the reader in engaging in more (painfully) laborious, in-depth activities necessary to completing the book (e.g., understanding the thermodynamic/kinetic states of certain molecules and their molecular arrangement, if it happens to be one dealing with biomolecular sciences) whereas the former merely has one basically immersing themselves in a dreamworld where really anything goes; thus, there's not really anything to understand but rather one simply need read.
Of course, that's an entirely different matter for books that may deal with more abstract ideas, in which case, one would need to pay more particular attention to certain elements in the book.

If you really want to discuss it at least give a disclaimer and then a bunch of blank lines below before you start discussing. However sometimes I (and I assume other people) skim these threads from the bottom up looking for something interesting so I think it is better not to discuss it at all in a public way like this.
Isn't that the few who a) are slow-pokes when it comes to reading the books and b) have bizarre blog-reading habits (which I share, BTW) holding the rest of the universe hostage? If you don't want spoilers, don't read a Harry Potter thread from the bottom up—at least not after the book has been out for a few weeks. I should say that the blogmaster designating threads as containing spoilers or not is a good idea.

J.R.: No offense, but years isn't going to happen. Someone will spoil you soon if you don't get the book done now. It's like expecting people not to know the whole Darth Vader/Luke thing. You almost can't miss running into story stuff on the internet sooner or later.
That said, after you read the last book, you may even be more impressed with the series than before. I know I was.

J.R. Stoodley,
In a few years... I guess.
By that time, all the allure of the series may have died out by then. ;^)
(j/k)

Esau,
On a thread like this, maybe in a few years. As it is a few months ago someone let out who died in book 6 and ruined that for me. This is just one of those things you have to do out of courtously to others.
If you really want to discuss it at least give a disclaimer and then a bunch of blank lines below before you start discussing. However sometimes I (and I assume other people) skim these threads from the bottom up looking for something interesting so I think it is better not to discuss it at all in a public way like this.
That said some general ideas probably won't hurt, like how Rowling has an emphasis on the power of love, which is called a kind of magic or could maybe be interpreted as something greater than any magic, or that unless I'm forgetting something or it is revealed in the last book there is no indication of what magic ultimately is, or where it comes from or why some people from birth have access to it and others don't, or how the books don't take religion seriously and include "transfiguration" as a type of magic (I don't like anything Jesus did being called magic, though as I said I think you just have to be lighthearted about such minor things). What I object to is revelations about the plot or the more mysterious characters.

When will it be safe to discuss actual material in the final book on this thread?
It seems that if any substantive discussion is to be had on the matter, it will require that we discuss actual matter in the final book.

No spoilers. I'm still waiting to get my hands on the last book to see if my theories about Snape are right.
Some people need to lighten up about this. Ok the books aren't philisophically perfect and are a little more dangerous to predesposed young people than much other fantasy, but they are fun and harmless for most people. They're no Lord of the Rings but they are literary masterpieces compared to that plagiarized (hardly anything that didn't come from Tolkien, McCaffery, Rowling, or George Lucas) and anti-Catholic piece of toilet paper Eragon, though a teenager wrote the latter so we must give some allowance for youth.

Lots of interesting stuff remains. Alas, it's all spoilers-required to discuss.

Since you introduced the term, and I asked you first, it seems to me your rendition of nothing is the logically prior one, but then perhaps you've already been gracing us with that.

If there's nothing to explain, why did you ask what it meant to me?
So I might hear your rendition of nothing.

With the meaning of "have nothing to do", there is nothing to explain. Would you like nothing explained to you?

If there's nothing to explain, why did you ask what it meant to me?

Why are you asking me what it means to me? You introduced the phrase; I only questioned it.
If you use the phrase in a question like the one you posed, you either understand what the phrase means or you're unsure what you're asking. If you know what it means, then why not answer your own question? On the other hand, if you're unsure what you're asking, then neither can I be sure. Hence the question to you.
What does it mean to you?
With the meaning of "have nothing to do", there is nothing to explain. Would you like nothing explained to you?
While we're on the subject, is your claim to disbelieve in gnosticism sufficient to establish that you aren't a gnostic? If you were a gnostic, would you say that you believed in gnosticism?
I wouldn't gnow.

Don't tie knots in the poor man's head.

Why are you asking me what it means to me? You introduced the phrase; I only questioned it. What does it mean to you?
While we're on the subject, is your claim to disbelieve in gnosticism sufficient to establish that you aren't a gnostic? If you were a gnostic, would you say that you believed in gnosticism?

What does it mean to you to "have nothing to do"?

Does anything have nothing to do with anything else?

I have nothing to do with it.

But do you disbelieve it?

Another gnostic... *yawn*
I don't believe in gnosticism.

Or more likely, the same old gnostic under yet another name.

Another gnostic... *yawn*

you MUST admit by dictionary definitions, the two are close, in fact close enough that many might consider them synonyms.
I already have, to those with eyes. Like I said, they're strongly correlated. Some people may hold them as different, some may hold them as identical. Is one group right and another wrong? Not to me. Everyone is entitled to use words as he/she wishes, to say what they see or even what they don't see. They can even use them to disagree. They're tools, toys, whatever.
Well, that's charitable Elmar.
It's just words. Make of it what you will.

It's true "childhood" and "being young" can often be the same thing, but they aren't necessarily the same thing. In the trival sense, they are different words, but in a more meaninful sense, they don't necessarily share the same meanings. For example, childhood can end with adolescence while being young can extend well into adulthood. A person 70-years young comes to mind. Meanwhile, second childhood may sometimes be among those young at heart or simply a euphemism for deteriorating mental infirmity of old age. So they can often be the same thing, but they aren't necessarily the same thing.

Bold off. Man, I hate it when people forget to close tags.

Well, that's charitable Elmar. I'm sure you mean "young at heart" or the "spirit of youth" or something, but you MUST admit by dictionary definitions, the two are close, in fact close enough that many might consider them synonyms.
SDG, I stand by my example and think it illustrates well. And while this is obviously interpretation on my part, an example of a point it makes is that the sneaky wheeling and dealings of the witch were trumped by manly courage and strength to not try to dicker with the witch anymore, but put an end to her evil through force.
Not a popular lesson these days, that.

Childhood and being young are not "strongly correlated". They are the same thing.
You just proved my point and your own ignorance.

Doing the dangerous thing of joining a conversation late, my two cents:
IIRC, the pope's comment on HP was along the lines that "there were better things to read."
Fr. Amorth has a wider experience than most people about evil. I can see where he's coming from but I also recognize that many people have enjoyed the HP series. It's difficult to argue with the number of kids who go from hating to read to devouring 600 page books.
I read the first book and thought it clever but not something I'd want to continue reading. IMO, the biggest message of HP is how much we've failed to capture the imaginations of the young with stories of God's people.

Perhaps it's time you and no one got better acquainted. Whether someone says it or not, it is nonetheless true. Childhood and being young are strongly correlated.
Don't be silly. Childhood and being young are not "strongly correlated". They are the same thing.

Well, I have to profess myself entirely satisfied with the breakdown of this discussion at this point, and ready to move on with my life. In one thing, at least, (it would seem) we agree, Elmar, in extending to Mary grace and peace. And you too, for that matter.
For those who said that the bad guy has to have a downfall that flows out of the story so far. Sometimes something out of the blue is used to finish the story and that contrast is on purpose...

Your example doesn't prove your case. Thomas Howard in C. S. Lewis: Man of Letters (I believe the current title is Beyond Narnia or something like that) argues cogently that the physical confrontation between Ransom and the Un-Man is profoundly in keeping with the themes and drama to date of Perelandra. The incarnational and sacramental resonances (however ironic they might be) are part of the warp and weft of Lewis's story and worldview, and the obvious scriptural and spiritual echoes -- crushing the serpent's head, resisting the devil rather than arguing with him -- are eminently satisfying to the story's requirements. By contrast, it's not clear how if at all The Little Mermaid might be illuminated by consideration of the themes of manly strength and skill.

*blink* Jar, that's actually a really good discription.

Previous post:

Next post: